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He seems to be making the same mistake a lot of people are. Just because voice actors think they deserve to be payed more, doesn't mean they think they deserve to be payed more than the designers.
If their efforts to the effect of being payed properly for their work end up meaning they're being payed more than the artists and programmers, well maybe that just means that the artists and programmers are being ripped off even harder.



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Truest words to be spoken by Deadpool.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Easy for him to say as a big name. It would be like Brad Pitt saying actors have no reason to strike and that their work wouldn't exist without writers and camera people.

Boy, I just love the mindset of "Oh, they're just fatcats, now, they don't know."  Was Nolan North, or Brad Pitt for that matter, born an actor?  Were they just put on a bunch of games and movies for no reason other than his birthright?  Or did they work their asses off to get to where they are?  I'll give you a hint, it's the last one.

And if they had to work their asses off to get to where they are, then so should others have to.  It shouldn't just be given to them.  This is the problem.  The minset of give me, give me without the work.  That and unions are now only concerned with giving their members higher pay and benefits just so they can make more money from union dues, even if in the end it costs their members jobs when the company goes elsewhere or shuts down.



Nolan is the coolest.



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COKTOE said:
binary solo said:

Yet they may only work for half a year or less. Meaning their annual income is actually quite low. People think being paid $100 per hour is creaming it. But it seems people think these actors are working 40hrs/week 48 weeks a year on contracts that have health insurance, sick leave, annual leave etc etc. But that is not the case. Most of the time the contracts are very bare bones with no or very few benefits.

It appears you might know people in the industry, but you seem to have little understanding of the industry. You certainly seem to place no valuon the inputs of the industry, and yet people seem to value the outputs of this industry to a very high degree. Some people spend the majority of their leisure time consuming (andf paying for) the outputs of this industry, yet for some odd reason they don't think this industry has any merit. Very strange.

If you can't get full time work as a voice actor, look into something else. Seriously. If you can get by on it solely, Bob's you're uncle. The very idea that this would be somebody's "end all be all " is absurd. If you have any work in this field, you've won the job lottery.

Exactly.  Just because you train for something or go to school for something doesn't guarantee you a job.  It's the same for all careers.  And you definitely shouldn't think you're going to be getting similar pay or benefits of someone who has been in the business for 20+ years.  Esepecially when that person got in it when conditions were even worse and they weren't just sitting there bitching about it.  They were working their asses off to get to where they are, now.  If you get those jobs as people in the background, working a couple of hours for $200, count your blessings.  Either get another job and just continue doing VA as a side job.  Or try to prove to the higher ups you have great talent and can start doing more central characters, working weeks, instead of just a day or two.



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thismeintiel said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Easy for him to say as a big name. It would be like Brad Pitt saying actors have no reason to strike and that their work wouldn't exist without writers and camera people.

Boy, I just love the mindset of "Oh, they're just fatcats, now, they don't know."  Was Nolan North, or Brad Pitt for that matter, born an actor?  Were they just put on a bunch of games and movies for no reason other than his birthright?  Or did they work their asses off to get to where they are?  I'll give you a hint, it's the last one.

And if they had to work their asses off to get to where they are, then so should others have to.  It shouldn't just be given to them.  This is the problem.  The minset of give me, give me without the work.  That and unions are now only concerned with giving their members higher pay and benefits just so they can make more money from union dues, even if in the end it costs their members jobs when the company goes elsewhere or shuts down.

Made me think of this. :)



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COKTOE said:
thismeintiel said:

Boy, I just love the mindset of "Oh, they're just fatcats, now, they don't know."  Was Nolan North, or Brad Pitt for that matter, born an actor?  Were they just put on a bunch of games and movies for no reason other than his birthright?  Or did they work their asses off to get to where they are?  I'll give you a hint, it's the last one.

And if they had to work their asses off to get to where they are, then so should others have to.  It shouldn't just be given to them.  This is the problem.  The minset of give me, give me without the work.  That and unions are now only concerned with giving their members higher pay and benefits just so they can make more money from union dues, even if in the end it costs their members jobs when the company goes elsewhere or shuts down.

Made me think of this. :)

LMAO! Yea, sadly it seems some people actually believe that.  Or at the most, you just have to move to LA, do a few audtions, get into a couple bit parts, then BAM!...you're the costar of a movie.  Making a few 100 thou, quickly making your way to the millions.



thismeintiel said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Easy for him to say as a big name. It would be like Brad Pitt saying actors have no reason to strike and that their work wouldn't exist without writers and camera people.

Boy, I just love the mindset of "Oh, they're just fatcats, now, they don't know."  Was Nolan North, or Brad Pitt for that matter, born an actor?  Were they just put on a bunch of games and movies for no reason other than his birthright?  Or did they work their asses off to get to where they are?  I'll give you a hint, it's the last one.

And if they had to work their asses off to get to where they are, then so should others have to.  It shouldn't just be given to them.  This is the problem.  The minset of give me, give me without the work.  That and unions are now only concerned with giving their members higher pay and benefits just so they can make more money from union dues, even if in the end it costs their members jobs when the company goes elsewhere or shuts down.

And here's the kicker. The gaming industry has proposed its compensation plans, but the SAG-AFTRA leaders prohibited its members from voting. Rather odd that the leaders refuse to engage in a democratic process...



thismeintiel said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Easy for him to say as a big name. It would be like Brad Pitt saying actors have no reason to strike and that their work wouldn't exist without writers and camera people.

Boy, I just love the mindset of "Oh, they're just fatcats, now, they don't know."  Was Nolan North, or Brad Pitt for that matter, born an actor?  Were they just put on a bunch of games and movies for no reason other than his birthright?  Or did they work their asses off to get to where they are?  I'll give you a hint, it's the last one.

And if they had to work their asses off to get to where they are, then so should others have to.  It shouldn't just be given to them.  This is the problem.  The minset of give me, give me without the work.  That and unions are now only concerned with giving their members higher pay and benefits just so they can make more money from union dues, even if in the end it costs their members jobs when the company goes elsewhere or shuts down.

LOL good lord, that has to be the most off-base tangent I have ever seen in a retort on teh Chartz, which is saying a lot. Where did I say they don't know what it is like to be a smaller and struggling artist? Not all actors forget their roots. Where did I say or imply Nolan or Pitt did not work their butts off to get to where they are? I'll give you a hint, I didn't. And even if I had, who gives a shit? It's irrelevant to the point.

You are apparently oblivious to the idea of progress. Just because such and such person had to come up in certain conditions doesn't mean the next in line should. Or that the next person in line is somehow wrong for expecting to be treated differently. I don't think you really have a clue what is going on in the strike, who exactly is saying "give me give me without the work"? They want what they think is fairer compensation for their work.. not compensation for no work :)



Aura7541 said:
thismeintiel said:

Boy, I just love the mindset of "Oh, they're just fatcats, now, they don't know."  Was Nolan North, or Brad Pitt for that matter, born an actor?  Were they just put on a bunch of games and movies for no reason other than his birthright?  Or did they work their asses off to get to where they are?  I'll give you a hint, it's the last one.

And if they had to work their asses off to get to where they are, then so should others have to.  It shouldn't just be given to them.  This is the problem.  The minset of give me, give me without the work.  That and unions are now only concerned with giving their members higher pay and benefits just so they can make more money from union dues, even if in the end it costs their members jobs when the company goes elsewhere or shuts down.

And here's the kicker. The gaming industry has proposed its compensation plans, but the SAG-AFTRA leaders prohibited its members from voting. Rather odd that the leaders refuse to engage in a democratic process...

Don't know the details of course. But it seems you don't know how these things work. The members of a union normally agree and vote on bottom lines before negotiations start. The union negotiators are given a mandate to negotiate, and that mandatre includes deciding whether the bottom lines have been met. If they decide the offer doesn't meet the bottom lines then they don't put the offer up for a vote. It saves union members from having to vote on each and every little movement the other side makes and prevents the employer / industry negotiators from making meaningless cosmetic changes to deals and effectively spamming the union by having them waste time by voting on every offer put forward.

But, you know, keep being an apologist for the actual fat cat arseholes who try to underpay everyone in the games industry.



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