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Aura7541 said:
thismeintiel said:

Boy, I just love the mindset of "Oh, they're just fatcats, now, they don't know."  Was Nolan North, or Brad Pitt for that matter, born an actor?  Were they just put on a bunch of games and movies for no reason other than his birthright?  Or did they work their asses off to get to where they are?  I'll give you a hint, it's the last one.

And if they had to work their asses off to get to where they are, then so should others have to.  It shouldn't just be given to them.  This is the problem.  The minset of give me, give me without the work.  That and unions are now only concerned with giving their members higher pay and benefits just so they can make more money from union dues, even if in the end it costs their members jobs when the company goes elsewhere or shuts down.

And here's the kicker. The gaming industry has proposed its compensation plans, but the SAG-AFTRA leaders prohibited its members from voting. Rather odd that the leaders refuse to engage in a democratic process...

Don't know the details of course. But it seems you don't know how these things work. The members of a union normally agree and vote on bottom lines before negotiations start. The union negotiators are given a mandate to negotiate, and that mandatre includes deciding whether the bottom lines have been met. If they decide the offer doesn't meet the bottom lines then they don't put the offer up for a vote. It saves union members from having to vote on each and every little movement the other side makes and prevents the employer / industry negotiators from making meaningless cosmetic changes to deals and effectively spamming the union by having them waste time by voting on every offer put forward.

But, you know, keep being an apologist for the actual fat cat arseholes who try to underpay everyone in the games industry.



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