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SWORDF1SH on 27 December 2016
jason1637 said:
SWORDF1SH said:

But we are talking about positions. Why is this so hard to understand? PS4 has a strong lead over the Xbox One and that's a fact when talking about positions on Amazon.

How much weight each position holds is an opinion and is up for debate.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8216623

The poster claimed PS4 was leading in sales based on the position which CGzi agreed. Yes the PS4S UC4 bundle is the best selling bundle on Amazon but saying PS4 is leading is putting weight into the position because hes they are assuming that the PS4 gaps is large to the nearest XB1 bundle. That seems like putting wieght into the positions. The problem i had was that they were saying its a fact. Yes saying the UC4 PS4 is the best selling on Amazon is a FACT but saying PS4 is winning is putting weight in the position and passing it on as a fact was the problem i saw.

But he can say that PS4 is the decisive front runner in terms of positions on Amazon and state it as fact and have the opinion that PS4 is leading in sales on Amazon. 



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jason1637 on 27 December 2016
SWORDF1SH said:
jason1637 said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8216623

The poster claimed PS4 was leading in sales based on the position which CGzi agreed. Yes the PS4S UC4 bundle is the best selling bundle on Amazon but saying PS4 is leading is putting weight into the position because hes they are assuming that the PS4 gaps is large to the nearest XB1 bundle. That seems like putting wieght into the positions. The problem i had was that they were saying its a fact. Yes saying the UC4 PS4 is the best selling on Amazon is a FACT but saying PS4 is winning is putting weight in the position and passing it on as a fact was the problem i saw.

But he can say that PS4 is the decisive front runner in terms of positions on Amazon and state it as fact and have the opinion that PS4 is leading in sales on Amazon. 

Yea there is no problem having the opinion is leading in sales but saying its a fact that its leading in sales is completly wrong.



pitzy272 on 27 December 2016

Has anyone looked at the Gamestop bestsellers? There's no way this can be right. It's 5:1 XBO to PS4 in the top 20. Do I have the right link??



A_C_E on 27 December 2016

Wow. I saw on my VGChartz buddy that there were 100 new messages in this thread. First thought was that people were talking about some crazy numbers that were just announced but nope...just four pages of people misinterpreting each other for sake of argument.



jason1637 on 27 December 2016
Bandorr said:
pitzy272 said:
Has anyone looked at the Gamestop bestsellers? There's no way this can be right. It's 5:1 XBO to PS4 in the top 20. Do I have the right link??

http://www.gamestop.com/browse is the link I use.

Fascinating that all the XB1 bundles are "online only", yet the ps4 isn't.

Maybe thad where all the Amazon sales are going. Lol.



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hudsoniscool on 27 December 2016
pitzy272 said:
Has anyone looked at the Gamestop bestsellers? There's no way this can be right. It's 5:1 XBO to PS4 in the top 20. Do I have the right link??

I see it as PS4 at 3 and 10. Xbox is at 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. 



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

3sexty on 28 December 2016
hudsoniscool said:
pitzy272 said:
Has anyone looked at the Gamestop bestsellers? There's no way this can be right. It's 5:1 XBO to PS4 in the top 20. Do I have the right link??

I see it as PS4 at 3 and 10. Xbox is at 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. 

Is Amazon a bigger seller of consoles than Gamestop? Probably a silly question but I really don't know..



Xbox 360 and Xbox One

Gamertag:  GamertagOz70

GribbleGrunger on 28 December 2016

9 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#09 PS4s UC4 Bundle (same)
#30 XB1s-500gb Battlefield Bundle (up 1)
#73 XB1s-500gb Minecraft Bundle (same)
#77 XB1s-1tb Gears Bundle (up 6)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
None at the moment

PS4: 1 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 1 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
XB1: 3 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5



 

The PS5 Exists. 


thismeintiel on 28 December 2016
jason1637 said:
hudsoniscool said:

I see where Jason is coming from and I agree with him. Take the hourly chart PS4 at #9, Xbox is at 31 73, and 83. Most people in here would say PS4 is "winning" the hourly chart. And they would express this OPINION as a FACT. It is not a fact at all. There is no possible way to know if the combined sales of 31, 73, and 83 outsell #9. To me all he is saying is it is not a fact that PS4 is winning on amazon. Would you put ur child's life(or someone important to you) on the statement 'PS4 is selling better than Xbox one on amazon'. I wouldn't.

With that being said PS4 is 'likely' winning on amazon. But here is something I just noticed on amazon. There is total(by my count) of 9 different options to buy a new PS4 on amazon. 7 if you exclude sold out bundles and bundles over 1k(vr bundle). There are 40 different option to buy a new Xbox on amazon. That is right 40. So I don't think it's light and day which console has more total sales on amazon when there are so many sku's and no actual number on sales besides a position ranking to 100.

 

edit- of course these are just my thoughts and opinions. Are they wrong, maybe, maybe not.

This. Finally someone understands. The PS4 could be winning but we can't be 100% since we dont know the gap. 

Would you two like to explain then why the UC4 bundle jumped so high in the yearlies (Top 10 in fact), while the only XBO SKU isn't even in the Top 50 (at #66, currently), yet? Obviously, the PS4 has been outselling the XBO by quite a bit for that to happen. And a lot of that came from Cyber Monday, which will be included in NPD for Dec.



 

RJ_Sizzle on 28 December 2016
3sexty said:
hudsoniscool said:

I see it as PS4 at 3 and 10. Xbox is at 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. 

Is Amazon a bigger seller of consoles than Gamestop? Probably a silly question but I really don't know..

Overall? No. GameStop is 35% or so of console sales in the US. Mainly through brick and mortar though. Their online business is only a fraction of their sales.