By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sales - PS4 Pro is completely sold out in Japan, 500$ scalper prices. Media Bias exposed

LivingMetal on 18 November 2016
Imaginedvl said:
LivingMetal said:

"Selling  like hot cakes" doesn't always equate to being sold out.  As someone had pointed out earlier, Sony overestimated in some regions, underestimated in others.

And again you just proving my point about being offended; you are not even trying to understand what I am talking about. 

The person I was responding to was challenging another one in Canada (BestBuy) who was saying it was not sold out at all. Not sure why you are talking about other regions... And in any case; selling like hot cakes would mean most likely sold out as I'm quite convincing Sony did not ship that many...

Like I proved, it is FAR from being sold out and everywhere we look at it is available. I'm sure some people can find some obscur places (in Canada again, us you follow me here) where it will be sold out but the you can buy a Play Station Four Pro without any problem in the majority of stores.

I believe perception is the issue here.  This all stemmed from xl-klaudkil's original statement in which he never said that the Pro was sold out everywhere.  From there, things went downhill (including your response) of the false conclusion (perception) derived from xl-klaudkil statement.  This is where the offensive behavior started.  At worst I might have misunderstood you (which I didn't), but even then for you to have concluded that I was offended shows that you were already defensive from the start.  In other words, check your heart before you judge mine.



Around the Network
Faelco on 18 November 2016
Dark_Feanor said:
It seems the Pro is selling far less than I expected.

I thouhgt it would sell about 50% the PS4 2013 launch. Now I belive it will be close to 25%.

Why would a more expensive new iteration of an already existing console, really useful almost only to 4K TV owners, released 2 months after a less expensive other new iteration, come even close to 50% of the original launch of the PS4?

It's not surprising the console sell less than the expectations if the expectations are completely over the top...



xl-klaudkil on 18 November 2016
RolStoppable said:
LivingMetal said:

And it's not even a legit comparison to begin with.  Some from both sides are taking it all the wrong ways.

Of course. No modern console should be left in the dust by a 30 year old system that launches with a limited games catalogue. We can only hope that it opens Nintendo's eyes and that they realize that they've made too much forgettable garbage. If they want to sell video games, they should finally take competition with their own legacy seriously instead of holding on to the misbelief that new automatically means better.

Wow a 60dollar nostalgia  toy against  a 400 dollar  modern system (upgrade) wooow what a disgrace 

 

Seriously  what ya think  would happen  if ps4 pro would be 60 dollars. 

 

Bye bye ps2 streak.



 

My youtube gaming page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/klaudkil

Dark_Feanor on 18 November 2016
Faelco said:
Dark_Feanor said:
It seems the Pro is selling far less than I expected.

I thouhgt it would sell about 50% the PS4 2013 launch. Now I belive it will be close to 25%.

Why would a more expensive new iteration of an already existing console, really useful almost only to 4K TV owners, released 2 months after a less expensive other new iteration, come even close to 50% of the original launch of the PS4?

It's not surprising the console sell less than the expectations if the expectations are completely over the top...

My estimations were based on a three assumptions:

1- Every new hardware sells gungbusters.

2- Sony would push a heavy marketing campain in NA, EU and JP.

3- Pro would eat up much of PS4 and Slim sales. It is a better deal - however...

For the last point, I underestimated the power of blundes in adding value to the standart PS4.



Pyro as Bill on 18 November 2016
xl-klaudkil said:
RolStoppable said:

Of course. No modern console should be left in the dust by a 30 year old system that launches with a limited games catalogue. We can only hope that it opens Nintendo's eyes and that they realize that they've made too much forgettable garbage. If they want to sell video games, they should finally take competition with their own legacy seriously instead of holding on to the misbelief that new automatically means better.

Wow a 60dollar nostalgia  toy against  a 400 dollar  modern system (upgrade) wooow what a disgrace 

 

Seriously  what ya think  would happen  if ps4 pro would be 60 dollars. 

 

Bye bye ps2 streak.

Bye bye Sony more like.

How could it beat the ps2 streak if Sony goes bankrupt?



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Around the Network
masturbator on 18 November 2016
Ruler said:

 

 

PS4 Pro sold 65k units in 4 days and is completley sold out in Japan. It could have easily sold 90,000 units if a have a higher stock would be avaible in Japan like in other western countries where the PS4 Pro isnt sold out. So even Sony belived in this generalization and droped the ball here. 

what a joke topic.
calling out media bias, that is nowhere to be seen...
make a huge biased topic and comment...


$500 scalper prices are very low for an allegedly high demand outsold product that is sold for $450 at retail   
the original ps4 was scalped for $600-800 with a retail price of $399 in the US and even more so in Europe

also if the ps4 pro is completely outsold in japan, we expect next weeks ps4 pro sales to be 3 digit overall units only? otherwise your whole topic is completly bullshit



Imaginedvl on 18 November 2016
LivingMetal said:
Imaginedvl said:

And again you just proving my point about being offended; you are not even trying to understand what I am talking about. 

The person I was responding to was challenging another one in Canada (BestBuy) who was saying it was not sold out at all. Not sure why you are talking about other regions... And in any case; selling like hot cakes would mean most likely sold out as I'm quite convincing Sony did not ship that many...

Like I proved, it is FAR from being sold out and everywhere we look at it is available. I'm sure some people can find some obscur places (in Canada again, us you follow me here) where it will be sold out but the you can buy a Play Station Four Pro without any problem in the majority of stores.

I believe perception is the issue here.  This all stemmed from xl-klaudkil's original statement in which he never said that the Pro was sold out everywhere.  From there, things went downhill (including your response) of the false conclusion (perception) derived from xl-klaudkil statement.  This is where the offensive behavior started.  At worst I might have misunderstood you (which I didn't), but even then for you to have concluded that I was offended shows that you were already defensive from the start.  In other words, check your heart before you judge mine.

To me, you are clearly showing that you are offended whenever someone is stating the Play Station Four Pro is not selling like hotcakes in this thread. Now, you responded to my post with non-sense things about everywhere vs Canada while I was CLEARLY talking about Canada and in no way I was even trying to prove the Play Station Four Pro is not doing well or poorly.

Also I do not think anyone has been "offensive" in anyway and the fact that you seem to believe so shows your state of mind on this topic. I do not need to check my heart as I already stated and believe the Play Station Four Pro is actually the best thing of the moment (said it multiple) but the difference with you is that I can actually look around me (just opening website, not even need to go out for that, use your browser) to open Amazon, Walmart, BestBuy etc and see that, NO, the Play Station Four Pro is not... selling like hotcakes...

So yes, I definetly think you are/were offended in some way.

By the way:

US: https://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation-4-Pro-1TB/dp/B01LOP8EZC/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1479485898&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=playstation+4+pro&psc=1

Canada: https://www.amazon.ca/PlayStation-4-Pro-1TB-Console/dp/B01LR207T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485936&sr=8-1&keywords=Playstation+4+pro

France: https://www.amazon.fr/Sony-9887157-PS4-To-Pro/dp/B01LQF9UKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485958&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation+4+pro

Germany: https://www.amazon.de/PlayStation-4-Pro-Konsole-1TB/dp/B01LQF9UKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485992&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation+4+pro

Etc...

I can go on... But even your statement was wrong. Other than Japan, it is not sold out/selling like hotcakes everywhere; it most likely doing okay though; not saying it doing bad again. Maybe you want to challenge Amazon as not being a reference but I personally think it is



LivingMetal on 18 November 2016
Imaginedvl said:
LivingMetal said:

I believe perception is the issue here.  This all stemmed from xl-klaudkil's original statement in which he never said that the Pro was sold out everywhere.  From there, things went downhill (including your response) of the false conclusion (perception) derived from xl-klaudkil statement.  This is where the offensive behavior started.  At worst I might have misunderstood you (which I didn't), but even then for you to have concluded that I was offended shows that you were already defensive from the start.  In other words, check your heart before you judge mine.

To me, you are clearly showing that you are offended whenever someone is stating the Play Station Four Pro is not selling like hotcakes in this thread. Now, you responded to my post with non-sense things about everywhere vs Canada while I was CLEARLY talking about Canada and in no way I was even trying to prove the Play Station Four Pro is not doing well or poorly.

Also I do not think anyone has been "offensive" in anyway and the fact that you seem to believe so shows your state of mind on this topic. I do not need to check my heart as I already stated and believe the Play Station Four Pro is actually the best thing of the moment (said it multiple) but the difference with you is that I can actually look around me (just opening website, not even need to go out for that, use your browser) to open Amazon, Walmart, BestBuy etc and see that, NO, the Play Station Four Pro is not... selling like hotcakes...

So yes, I definetly think you are/were offended in some way.

By the way:

US: https://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation-4-Pro-1TB/dp/B01LOP8EZC/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1479485898&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=playstation+4+pro&psc=1

Canada: https://www.amazon.ca/PlayStation-4-Pro-1TB-Console/dp/B01LR207T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485936&sr=8-1&keywords=Playstation+4+pro

France: https://www.amazon.fr/Sony-9887157-PS4-To-Pro/dp/B01LQF9UKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485958&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation+4+pro

Germany: https://www.amazon.de/PlayStation-4-Pro-Konsole-1TB/dp/B01LQF9UKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485992&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation+4+pro

Etc...

I can go on... But even your statement was wrong. Other than Japan, it is not sold out/selling like hotcakes everywhere; it most likely doing okay though; not saying it doing bad again. Maybe you want to challenge Amazon as not being a reference but I personally think it is

Being available doen't mean it's not selling well.  And you're forgetting that in the UK, the Pro has helped the PS4 outsell the Xbox One again.  And it's more evident that you're offended because you keep a closed mind when the links you post could be interpeted either way.  I'll go on the record to say that I'm glad the NES Mini is selling well, and I hope it's the hottest selling item this Christmas shopping season for personal and professional reasons.  I can go on, but you're too one sided to see otherwise.  Have an awesome weekend.



iNathan on 18 November 2016
Imaginedvl said:
LivingMetal said:

I believe perception is the issue here.  This all stemmed from xl-klaudkil's original statement in which he never said that the Pro was sold out everywhere.  From there, things went downhill (including your response) of the false conclusion (perception) derived from xl-klaudkil statement.  This is where the offensive behavior started.  At worst I might have misunderstood you (which I didn't), but even then for you to have concluded that I was offended shows that you were already defensive from the start.  In other words, check your heart before you judge mine.

To me, you are clearly showing that you are offended whenever someone is stating the Play Station Four Pro is not selling like hotcakes in this thread. Now, you responded to my post with non-sense things about everywhere vs Canada while I was CLEARLY talking about Canada and in no way I was even trying to prove the Play Station Four Pro is not doing well or poorly.

Also I do not think anyone has been "offensive" in anyway and the fact that you seem to believe so shows your state of mind on this topic. I do not need to check my heart as I already stated and believe the Play Station Four Pro is actually the best thing of the moment (said it multiple) but the difference with you is that I can actually look around me (just opening website, not even need to go out for that, use your browser) to open Amazon, Walmart, BestBuy etc and see that, NO, the Play Station Four Pro is not... selling like hotcakes...

So yes, I definetly think you are/were offended in some way.

By the way:

US: https://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation-4-Pro-1TB/dp/B01LOP8EZC/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1479485898&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=playstation+4+pro&psc=1

Canada: https://www.amazon.ca/PlayStation-4-Pro-1TB-Console/dp/B01LR207T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485936&sr=8-1&keywords=Playstation+4+pro

France: https://www.amazon.fr/Sony-9887157-PS4-To-Pro/dp/B01LQF9UKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485958&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation+4+pro

Germany: https://www.amazon.de/PlayStation-4-Pro-Konsole-1TB/dp/B01LQF9UKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485992&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation+4+pro

Etc...

I can go on... But even your statement was wrong. Other than Japan, it is not sold out/selling like hotcakes everywhere; it most likely doing okay though; not saying it doing bad again. Maybe you want to challenge Amazon as not being a reference but I personally think it is

Lmao if I say what I have to say about this post I would be banned, how can I block someone here? I can't really stand this kind of crap. 

 

Mods please provide with PM on how I can block someone on this forum, it's getting beyond ridiculous over here. 



Imaginedvl on 18 November 2016
LivingMetal said:
Imaginedvl said:

To me, you are clearly showing that you are offended whenever someone is stating the Play Station Four Pro is not selling like hotcakes in this thread. Now, you responded to my post with non-sense things about everywhere vs Canada while I was CLEARLY talking about Canada and in no way I was even trying to prove the Play Station Four Pro is not doing well or poorly.

Also I do not think anyone has been "offensive" in anyway and the fact that you seem to believe so shows your state of mind on this topic. I do not need to check my heart as I already stated and believe the Play Station Four Pro is actually the best thing of the moment (said it multiple) but the difference with you is that I can actually look around me (just opening website, not even need to go out for that, use your browser) to open Amazon, Walmart, BestBuy etc and see that, NO, the Play Station Four Pro is not... selling like hotcakes...

So yes, I definetly think you are/were offended in some way.

By the way:

US: https://www.amazon.com/Sony-PlayStation-4-Pro-1TB/dp/B01LOP8EZC/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1479485898&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=playstation+4+pro&psc=1

Canada: https://www.amazon.ca/PlayStation-4-Pro-1TB-Console/dp/B01LR207T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485936&sr=8-1&keywords=Playstation+4+pro

France: https://www.amazon.fr/Sony-9887157-PS4-To-Pro/dp/B01LQF9UKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485958&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation+4+pro

Germany: https://www.amazon.de/PlayStation-4-Pro-Konsole-1TB/dp/B01LQF9UKS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1479485992&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation+4+pro

Etc...

I can go on... But even your statement was wrong. Other than Japan, it is not sold out/selling like hotcakes everywhere; it most likely doing okay though; not saying it doing bad again. Maybe you want to challenge Amazon as not being a reference but I personally think it is

Being available doen't mean it's not selling well.  And you're forgetting that in the UK, the Pro has helped the PS4 outsell the Xbox One again.  And it's more evident that you're offended because you keep a closed mind when the links you post could be interpeted either way.  I'll go on the record to say that I'm glad the NES Mini is selling well, and I hope it's the hottest selling item this Christmas shopping season for personal and professional reasons.  I can go on, but you're too one sided to see otherwise.  Have an awesome weekend.

UK is the same... I'm not EVEN going to post the link as you could at least check before saying non-sense again.

I mean Canada, US, France, Germany, UK, everywhere it is available and you keep coming with your non-sense about it selling lik hotcakes.

Fine, we are all one-sided and you know what you are talking about; you are not one-sided at all. I mean, at least we are linking real things and not coming up with "interpretations" or anything. Like having the thing available everywhere is definetly more in line with selling like hotcakes than not, right?

Have a nice weekend too. And do not finish your post with this kind of sentence if you plan to respond again anyway :)

Edit: Fuck Amazon... Now I have all website I go advertizing the Play Station Four Pro like I want to buy ones because of cookies! meh...