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JRPGfan said:
DanneSandin said:
I agree that if it only sell like 10 million units, it'll be a failure and Nintendo will move away from the console market, or become a 3rd party publisher. But that's not gonna happen. I think will a total sell through of 30m Nintendo will be happy, anything above will be a bonus. I'm guessing around 40m when it's all said and done - and that's without knowing price or anything.

Wii U (13m) + 3DS (60m) = 73m+ total.

If the Switch is their new handheld + homeconsole in one, they need to sell 70m+ for it to have really payed off from where they currently are.


Nintendo cant and shouldnt be happy with just 30m sales for the Switch.

You gotta consider that most people that own a Wii U probably also own a 3DS, which means around 60m people have a Nintendo console right now. I think THAT should be their goal. But then again, we need to consider that the handheld market has shrunk by half since the DS days, and we don't know if the Switch can reverse that. First and foremost, it'll cost more than the 3DS, making it a harder sell, and it doesn't offer the same power level as PS4 or Xbox1 (and even less so than the Pro and Scorpio), meaning that hardcore gamers won't buy it for that reason. What will sell the console is the games; a steady flow of Nintendo 1st party games. That alone might make it a secondary console for "core gamers", since you'll get ALL the Nintendo games on it.

I think that 30m means it didn't fail, 40m: it did ok, 50m; it did good, 60m; it did really good, 70m; Nintendo should be celebrating. Put it all comes down to price and games.



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DanneSandin said:
JRPGfan said:

Wii U (13m) + 3DS (60m) = 73m+ total.

If the Switch is their new handheld + homeconsole in one, they need to sell 70m+ for it to have really payed off from where they currently are.


Nintendo cant and shouldnt be happy with just 30m sales for the Switch.

You gotta consider that most people that own a Wii U probably also own a 3DS, which means around 60m people have a Nintendo console right now. I think THAT should be their goal. But then again, we need to consider that the handheld market has shrunk by half since the DS days, and we don't know if the Switch can reverse that. First and foremost, it'll cost more than the 3DS, making it a harder sell, and it doesn't offer the same power level as PS4 or Xbox1 (and even less so than the Pro and Scorpio), meaning that hardcore gamers won't buy it for that reason. What will sell the console is the games; a steady flow of Nintendo 1st party games. That alone might make it a secondary console for "core gamers", since you'll get ALL the Nintendo games on it.

I think that 30m means it didn't fail, 40m: it did ok, 50m; it did good, 60m; it did really good, 70m; Nintendo should be celebrating. Put it all comes down to price and games.

Not even that many. Ive had three 3DSs myself. It probably closer to 50M.



DanneSandin said:
JRPGfan said:

Wii U (13m) + 3DS (60m) = 73m+ total.

If the Switch is their new handheld + homeconsole in one, they need to sell 70m+ for it to have really payed off from where they currently are.


Nintendo cant and shouldnt be happy with just 30m sales for the Switch.

You gotta consider that most people that own a Wii U probably also own a 3DS, which means around 60m people have a Nintendo console right now. I think THAT should be their goal. But then again, we need to consider that the handheld market has shrunk by half since the DS days, and we don't know if the Switch can reverse that. First and foremost, it'll cost more than the 3DS, making it a harder sell, and it doesn't offer the same power level as PS4 or Xbox1 (and even less so than the Pro and Scorpio), meaning that hardcore gamers won't buy it for that reason. What will sell the console is the games; a steady flow of Nintendo 1st party games. That alone might make it a secondary console for "core gamers", since you'll get ALL the Nintendo games on it.

I think that 30m means it didn't fail, 40m: it did ok, 50m; it did good, 60m; it did really good, 70m; Nintendo should be celebrating. Put it all comes down to price and games.

I honestly do not think the power level is a HUGE factor. As long as it is close to or on par with XB1 or PS4 then it will be okay. It just comes down to the games and marketing. Im pretty sure almost half of the 3DS install base will probably pick up a Switch because it does what the 3DS does and maybe even better. I think at least 7 million of the Wii U install base will pick up the Switch because they actually bought the Wii U regardless of its many many many flaws. 

I think 50-60 million would be a perfect number to hit. Anything above that is amazing numbers. If it hits 80 million then that will be astonishing.



Problem with your "theory" is that even though Nintendo struggled this generation they are still in far better shape than Sega ever was.



KLXVER said:
JRPGfan said:

f*** promoteing it, price it right.

249$ at launch = success for years and years.

Nintendo just need to not be greedy.

Yeah, the basic console should be no more than that. Maybe a 300$ bundle with a Pro controller and a 350$ bundle with Zelda and a Pro controller.

And do the same with each next major first-party Nintendo release!!



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awesomeabe1998 said:
DanneSandin said:

You gotta consider that most people that own a Wii U probably also own a 3DS, which means around 60m people have a Nintendo console right now. I think THAT should be their goal. But then again, we need to consider that the handheld market has shrunk by half since the DS days, and we don't know if the Switch can reverse that. First and foremost, it'll cost more than the 3DS, making it a harder sell, and it doesn't offer the same power level as PS4 or Xbox1 (and even less so than the Pro and Scorpio), meaning that hardcore gamers won't buy it for that reason. What will sell the console is the games; a steady flow of Nintendo 1st party games. That alone might make it a secondary console for "core gamers", since you'll get ALL the Nintendo games on it.

I think that 30m means it didn't fail, 40m: it did ok, 50m; it did good, 60m; it did really good, 70m; Nintendo should be celebrating. Put it all comes down to price and games.

I honestly do not think the power level is a HUGE factor. As long as it is close to or on par with XB1 or PS4 then it will be okay. It just comes down to the games and marketing. Im pretty sure almost half of the 3DS install base will probably pick up a Switch because it does what the 3DS does and maybe even better. I think at least 7 million of the Wii U install base will pick up the Switch because they actually bought the Wii U regardless of its many many many flaws. 

I think 50-60 million would be a perfect number to hit. Anything above that is amazing numbers. If it hits 80 million then that will be astonishing.

I think that power level will be a huge factor.  If the system is not on par with PS4 / XBox One, then it will be much harder for 3rd parties to port games to the Switch.  If that happens, you will have software droughts, which would lead to less sales, and a repeat of what happened with Wii U.



I'm sure I've been hearing this since 1999



DM235 said:
awesomeabe1998 said:

I honestly do not think the power level is a HUGE factor. As long as it is close to or on par with XB1 or PS4 then it will be okay. It just comes down to the games and marketing. Im pretty sure almost half of the 3DS install base will probably pick up a Switch because it does what the 3DS does and maybe even better. I think at least 7 million of the Wii U install base will pick up the Switch because they actually bought the Wii U regardless of its many many many flaws. 

I think 50-60 million would be a perfect number to hit. Anything above that is amazing numbers. If it hits 80 million then that will be astonishing.

I think that power level will be a huge factor.  If the system is not on par with PS4 / XBox One, then it will be much harder for 3rd parties to port games to the Switch.  If that happens, you will have software droughts, which would lead to less sales, and a repeat of what happened with Wii U.

Rumours suggest it is not that far off from the Xbox One. Betheseda who stated that they will only support the Switch if it is as powerful as the Xbox One are supposedly supporting it. A bunch of devs have also expressed interest in the NS. There will probably also be waaaaaaaaaay more first parties releasing on the console because Nintendo's resources are combined now So far it looks good. I guess we will just have to find out.



KLXVER said:
DanneSandin said:

You gotta consider that most people that own a Wii U probably also own a 3DS, which means around 60m people have a Nintendo console right now. I think THAT should be their goal. But then again, we need to consider that the handheld market has shrunk by half since the DS days, and we don't know if the Switch can reverse that. First and foremost, it'll cost more than the 3DS, making it a harder sell, and it doesn't offer the same power level as PS4 or Xbox1 (and even less so than the Pro and Scorpio), meaning that hardcore gamers won't buy it for that reason. What will sell the console is the games; a steady flow of Nintendo 1st party games. That alone might make it a secondary console for "core gamers", since you'll get ALL the Nintendo games on it.

I think that 30m means it didn't fail, 40m: it did ok, 50m; it did good, 60m; it did really good, 70m; Nintendo should be celebrating. Put it all comes down to price and games.

Not even that many. Ive had three 3DSs myself. It probably closer to 50M.

Probably, yeah



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