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setsunatenshi on 04 November 2016
Veknoid_Outcast said:
setsunatenshi said:

so basically you're advocating for another nieche console to play pretty much only Nintendo 1st party games and that's basically it?

they might as well just go 3rd party at that point.  paying $200 (it won't ever be 200 anywhere near launch, I don't even know where you're getting this number from) for the 'previlege' of being able to play Nintendo games and still need to own another console for everything else is exactly why they keep selling less and less home consoles as time goes by.

the Wii sold amazingly hardware wise, but in terms of software was absolutely terrible due to the fact of millions of people purchasing one and being content with wii sports for the entire generation. It was a novelty item that happened to appear at the right time. It's like chasing lightning for Nintendo to think they're going to get another hit like that and still be able to sustain it.

on your point on pokemon... i can't believe you're trying to compare that to the biggest game franchise in the world, GTA. I'm not sure where you're living to believe people are wanting a new pokemon over a new GTA lol

Are you winding me up?

How was the Wii niche? The GBA? The DS? Even the 3DS?

I would encourage you to step out of your comfort zone and try to experience the world of video games through the eyes of the millions of people who actually love the Wii, and not just "hardcore" gamers who think it was a novelty item.

I personally owned (i guess i still own since I sold off none of them) an NES, N64, Wii, DS and 3DS. As I explained, the Wii was the outlier in terms of hardware sold, but with a shitty attach rate, And you seem to be conflating again home consoles with handhelds, not sure why. Nintendo was always extremely successful in terms of handhelds and personally I believe the Switch should be a quite successful handheld as well.



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KLXVER on 04 November 2016
Veknoid_Outcast said:
KLXVER said:

Well there werent really any benefits to buying third party multiplats on the Wii or WiiU(a few exceptions of course) but I think the portability of the Switch can convince some people to buy it on that system. Developers dont have to add some gimmick to make the game special. It becomes special just by porting it.

I can buy that. There is something cool about being able to continue a quest in Skyrim after leaving the house, for example. But I don't think that functionality would move the needle that much.

I absolutely think it could and I think third parties sees that as well going by the amount of developers supporting it.



Pyro as Bill on 04 November 2016
Darwinianevolution said:
Soundwave said:
Maybe Super Street Fighter IV for Switch ... lol. I'd buy it. Or even Street Fighter 2 HD.

I'd buy SSFIV too. Would they dare to push it after releasing V?

Street Fighter? Haha. This is Capcom on a Nintendo home console.

It's not as though Brawl provides a built in fighter audience or that Street Fighter 2 with a SNES pad defined Street Fighter.

No, no, no, you'll take your Titsudoku v Capcom 2 and that's the end of it.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Soundwave on 04 November 2016
Pyro as Bill said:
Darwinianevolution said:

I'd buy SSFIV too. Would they dare to push it after releasing V?

Street Fighter? Haha. This is Capcom on a Nintendo home console.

It's not as though Brawl provides a built in fighter audience or that Street Fighter 2 with a SNES pad defined Street Fighter.

No, no, no, you'll take your Titsudoku v Capcom 2 and that's the end of it.

It isn't a home console, Nintendo can call it that all they want, but it's portable gaming tablet and everyone can see that very plainly. 

SSFIV was more a "lol" since the 3DS already has it. I wouldn't mind another port though. 



Darwinianevolution on 04 November 2016
Pyro as Bill said:
Darwinianevolution said:

I'd buy SSFIV too. Would they dare to push it after releasing V?

Street Fighter? Haha. This is Capcom on a Nintendo home console.

It's not as though Brawl provides a built in fighter audience or that Street Fighter 2 with a SNES pad defined Street Fighter.

No, no, no, you'll take your Titsudoku v Capcom 2 and that's the end of it.

I liked Tatsunoko VS Capcom :(

I never bought it because it's rare as fuck, but it's not a bad game. I still have no idea who are half of the cast, but I'm sure someone knows them.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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KLXVER on 04 November 2016
Darwinianevolution said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Street Fighter? Haha. This is Capcom on a Nintendo home console.

It's not as though Brawl provides a built in fighter audience or that Street Fighter 2 with a SNES pad defined Street Fighter.

No, no, no, you'll take your Titsudoku v Capcom 2 and that's the end of it.

I liked Tatsunoko VS Capcom :(

I never bought it because it's rare as fuck, but it's not a bad game. I still have no idea who are half of the cast, but I'm sure someone knows them.

I actually have that game. Its pretty cool. Didnt know it was very rare though.



Darwinianevolution on 04 November 2016
KLXVER said:
Darwinianevolution said:

I liked Tatsunoko VS Capcom :(

I never bought it because it's rare as fuck, but it's not a bad game. I still have no idea who are half of the cast, but I'm sure someone knows them.

I actually have that game. Its pretty cool. Didnt know it was very rare though.

Capcom lost the Tatsunoko license very early on, so they stopped making it fast. There are not that many copies around.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

Veknoid_Outcast on 04 November 2016
setsunatenshi said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

Are you winding me up?

How was the Wii niche? The GBA? The DS? Even the 3DS?

I would encourage you to step out of your comfort zone and try to experience the world of video games through the eyes of the millions of people who actually love the Wii, and not just "hardcore" gamers who think it was a novelty item.

I personally owned (i guess i still own since I sold off none of them) an NES, N64, Wii, DS and 3DS. As I explained, the Wii was the outlier in terms of hardware sold, but with a shitty attach rate, And you seem to be conflating again home consoles with handhelds, not sure why. Nintendo was always extremely successful in terms of handhelds and personally I believe the Switch should be a quite successful handheld as well.

How is it the outlier? DS sold more. Now attach rate is suddenly the most important data point? Stop moving goal posts.

Why wouldn't I conflate consoles and portables? Most people who play on handhelds play them at home. Portability has relatively little to do with it. It's about software, accessibility, and price. Wii and DS were cheap and easy to understand, and hosted the games people want to play. When Nintendo tries to please both "casual" and "hardcore" fans, as it did with GCN and WiiU, it satisfies neither demographic and fails.



Pyro as Bill on 04 November 2016
Darwinianevolution said:
Pyro as Bill said:

Street Fighter? Haha. This is Capcom on a Nintendo home console.

It's not as though Brawl provides a built in fighter audience or that Street Fighter 2 with a SNES pad defined Street Fighter.

No, no, no, you'll take your Titsudoku v Capcom 2 and that's the end of it.

I liked Tatsunoko VS Capcom :(

I never bought it because it's rare as fuck, but it's not a bad game. I still have no idea who are half of the cast, but I'm sure someone knows them.

I liked it too but what I didn't like was being told that SSIV isn't going on Wii because .......... reasons. Not even SF2HD. Screw Capcom I hope they die.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

setsunatenshi on 04 November 2016
Veknoid_Outcast said:
setsunatenshi said:

I personally owned (i guess i still own since I sold off none of them) an NES, N64, Wii, DS and 3DS. As I explained, the Wii was the outlier in terms of hardware sold, but with a shitty attach rate, And you seem to be conflating again home consoles with handhelds, not sure why. Nintendo was always extremely successful in terms of handhelds and personally I believe the Switch should be a quite successful handheld as well.

How is it the outlier? DS sold more. Now attach rate is suddenly the most important data point? Stop moving goal posts.

Why wouldn't I conflate consoles and portables? Most people who play on handhelds play them at home. Portability has relatively little to do with it. It's about software, accessibility, and price. Wii and DS were cheap and easy to understand, and hosted the games people want to play. When Nintendo tries to please both "casual" and "hardcore" fans, as it did with GCN and WiiU, it satisfies neither demographic and fails.

I never moved the goal posts, since the beggining I mentioned that the Wii was the outlier as each Nintendo home console has sold respectively lower numbers than the previous one. So what exactly makes 1 console sell around 100M and the next one sell a 10th of that? What happened to all those millions of people that love Nintendo IPs so much? 

You know what happened, they were never there because of the Nintendo IPs, they were there on a novelty item that caught on fire and sold to everyone and their gramma. I hear you on the fact that the Wii was lower priced and that obviously played into its hardware sales success, but I'm still not sure why you think the Switch is going to be priced the way you have mentioned. Also it's not the party item the Wii was, where people would gather around and casually play golf or tennis with their friends and family around the fireplace.

Again I raise this one question that I would love you'd actually try and give an opinion. If you think Nintendo should aim at the fans, all the same ones that got the Wii U, why not just go 3rd party? You've established already that people already have a PS4 and Xbox1 for all the GTAs and Mass Effects, right? With the $300 extra the fans will need to spend, imagine how many Mario, Zelda and Pokemon you could buy if they would simply focus on making the games you seem to want.