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Like he said, third party by 2020 33 39.29%
 
RIP Switch 51 60.71%
 
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Shadow1980 said:

Imagine if you're a Nintendo shareholder or investor and this is the hardware shipment numbers you see in five years:

I didn't quite make it Wii U numbers for the Switch projections, but rather assumed a more GameCube-like sales projection.

If the Switch doesn't succeed and investors see a hardware division that is barely making them any money, with years of hardware shipments that are far below anything the company has ever seen since becoming a major player in the console market three decades ago, you can probably guess that they may want this underperforming division culled.

Now, Sega never was a major player with handhelds, with the Game Gear posting only modest numbers. They sustained two failed consoles in a row with nothing backing them up. They ended up abandoning hardware and going third-party. Since Nintendo is adopting an all-eggs-in-one-basket approach with a hybrid system, Nintendo's hardware sales will depend entirely on the Switch within a couple of years of launch. It will have no other platform to back it up like the 3DS backed up the Wii U.

I think if Nintendo wants to guarantee that they remain first-party, the Switch needs to sell at least 50-60 million units and make a nifty profit. It's certainly possible, especially since it'll have all of Nintendo's big franchises on one platform (imagine Pokemon with console-level production values... YUUUUGE), but it's by no means guaranteed. While Nintendo as a company will certainly survive the Switch being a flop like the Wii U was, I don't think it would bode well for their future as a console maker.

If they do go third-party, I think PlayStation and Xbox would be good homes for their franchises. Mobile would tarnish their future. The mobile market does not tend to support true console-like gaming experiences. Nintendo's first big mobile games were Pokemon Go, a relatively simplistic ARG, and Super Mario Run, an endless runner. The kind of games that the mobile market supports are not the kind of games most of us think of when we hear "Nintendo." Mobile will not support a big grand Zelda adventure, or a 3D Mario, or even a Mario Kart. Nintendo's biggest franchises were developed with console in mind, and they should remain on consoles. Regarldess of whether or not Nintendo remains first-party, they should always know who their fan base is, and that to retain that fan base they need to keep making console games.

Switch can co-exit with Playstation or XBox so long as Playstation and XBox cannot function as portables.

Nintendo can pit MS and Sony against each other in a bidding war for their services for a partnership. IMO this would be a smarter way to do things. 



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Obviously not talking about in this format. If you look hard enough, you can find it, if I could figure out how to post pics on here if show ya lol.



No.



This so-called analyst doesn't even get how Nintendo games work. It's like he's never even played a Nintendo console.



Miguel_Zorro said:
rjason12 said:
People have been litterally saying that Nintendo is doomed and going third party since the nes days, look it up and you'll find tons of old posts.

I'm reasonably sure that we don't have any posts from the "NES days" saying people should go third party.

 Mario and Zelda did go 3rd party in the NES days though.



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Pyro as Bill said:
Miguel_Zorro said:

I'm reasonably sure that we don't have any posts from the "NES days" saying people should go third party.

 Mario and Zelda did go 3rd party in the NES days though.

How did that happen? Unless you're confusing it with the infamous CD-i Nintendo games, or the Atari ports of Donkey Kong and Mario Bros.



"Zelda: Breath of the Wild could easily sell 15-20 million copies on PlayStation 4 and another 10+ million on Xbox One"



Nintendo would have to make a string of console flops before that happens. Like if the Switch tanked, then the console after. Maybe I could see them branching. But that's still not likely.  They'll probably double down on mobile first.



Guuuh, this again. There's a few points to be made about this, but I've made them before and don't care much to do it again. They'd loose out on HW profits, no peripherals either, their games would take longer to make and cost more since they'd be developing on more powerful consoles AND having to compete with everything else out there. And it's not even a sure thing that a market exists for Nintendo on Playstation or Xbox, where hardcore gamers lament the absence of Nintendo and their games, yet never buys similar offerings on the console.



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Miguel_Zorro said:
rjason12 said:
People have been litterally saying that Nintendo is doomed and going third party since the nes days, look it up and you'll find tons of old posts.

I'm reasonably sure that we don't have any posts from the "NES days" saying people should go third party.

Dont know if joking but if not obviously he doesn't mean VGchartz.