Yeah, but for me, I think it's a combination of that firewall, that I only have wireless internet as a choice, that the access point is in the building next to this one, and such, so I'm not too hopeful about getting any lag free matches unless they're based in Japan or until I get back to the USA., but I hope it gets fixed up for most people quickly.

I'm going to say this:

I'm perfectly fine with Brawl's online mode aside from the lack of Special Brawl mode.

The thing is that the game looks to be on track to outsell Melee, even without online half as great as the other systems.

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yea, i would love to play brawl with a headset so i could shit talk my opponents.

They are improving their online but in comparison to Live it is still a service 3 more years in the making. However it is free so what should you expect? Much of the costs can be eliminated by having each console act as its own server and host though its more of a programming and software side issue to be over come however most deal with it as an external non console problem rather than integrating it.

Yeah, friend codes suck, but lag is generally not an issue. It does come up every once in a while (like in the match WoW mentioned). Still, it's a rare occurance for me. I'd say maybe one match out of every five I have any noticeable lag, and half the time it's because one of the people I'm playing against has a bad connection.

As for voice chat, the immaturity of some of the online console gamers has caused me to never use a mic on a console anyway unless playing with a friend. Even then I can just hook up my headset and hop on Steam.

well...i find it pretty well except for the occasional lag

No voice chat, no camera, no freinds list, no player ID....

Complaints about lag....

What exactly does the Wii online service offer?

Reading through these comments I get the impression that it's very restricting, soulless and utterly outdated.

Are their firmware updates for the Wii?