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Forums - Nintendo - Emily Rogers: Switch has 4GB of ram in RETAIL units, leaked specs might not be farfetched

Player2 on 30 October 2016
Veknoid_Outcast said:
lionpetercarmoo said:

mmmm no without western support Nintendo is dead as usual.

Based on? If I bring up 3DS are you going to say "kids don't care about third party games" again?

So Japan is full of kids? Japan's aging problem is solved! Huzzah!



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malistix1985 on 30 October 2016
pokoko said:
shikamaru317 said:

There is one bit of good news here imo. If it really has a Tegra X1 based chipset and 4GB of RAM, there is no reason why Nintendo shouldn't be able to hit $250, maybe even less. The Nvidia Shield Console (since renamed the Shield Android TV) used the Tegra X1 chipset, and it released nearly 2 years before Switch's March 2017 release, May 2015, for $200. If Nvidia could hit $200 nearly 2 years before Switch's release, there is no reason why Nintendo shouldn't be able to hit $250, after taking into account the decrease in manufacturing costs for Tegra X1, and taking into account the added cost of an extra 1 GB of RAM, 16 GB of internal storage, a 720p multi-touch screen, a tablet battery, and the Joy Cons' Wii-Mote like motion sensing equipment, which are all things the Nvidia Shield lacked.

If Nintendo can hit $250 or less, this thing might just be successful as what it really is, a powerful handheld. They should be able to win over many of the Japanese devs that currently support Vita, plus some ports of the less graphically demanding XB1/PS4 games. Toss in stronger 1st/2nd party support than either Wi U or 3DS ever recieved, and this thing could be successful as a handheld with the right price. 

I agree.  They have to either be on par or they have to be much cheaper.  If they're stuck in the middle in both price and performance then it's going to be a tough sell.

you are both right, if its as underpowered as a home console as it is, its still a well-powered handheld and if they sell if for a good price, 249,- would be a good price. people are still going to find it desiarable. By that logic the sales would be good and with good sales come games from other companies. There is more then one way to rome.

If they however price it 299,- or even worse, over 299.- and keep saying its "mainly a home console" they are valualing their consoles higher then the ps4 and xbox one, which is cheaper with some games in addition and might even have a discount again at that time. they are going into a war they cannot win.

They will actually go in to the same war they did with the Wii-U, altough this time with a slightly better product, its still going to a very hard sell.




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potato_hamster on 30 October 2016
Miyamotoo said:
daredevil.shark said:
Now a days cell phones have the same RAM (One Plus 3 has 6GB RAM). Plus even by 2013's standards it's behind PS4 and Xbox One. They can say goodbye to their third party support. Unless people call it handheld it's very underpowered by 2013 standard.

We already have confirmed list of 3rd party partners.

3GB RAM for games (PS4/XB1 have around 5GB for games), is enuf for PS4/XB1 3rd party ports in 720p.

Quick questionL What makes you think that whatever is forcing Sony and MS to dedicate 3 gb of RAM to their OS that Nintendo is somehow exempt by this limitation? What makes you think their OS can be significantly less resource demanding and still go toe-to-toe with PS4/X1 in terms of OS features, apps,  video sharing, networking, etc. that people have come to expect out of their home consoles. Because the Switch is a home console first and foremost according to Nintendo. Like it or not, that means the PS4 and X1 are the NS's direct competition.



Goodnightmoon on 30 October 2016
potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:

We already have confirmed list of 3rd party partners.

3GB RAM for games (PS4/XB1 have around 5GB for games), is enuf for PS4/XB1 3rd party ports in 720p.

Quick questionL What makes you think that whatever is forcing Sony and MS to dedicate 3 gb of RAM to their OS that Nintendo is somehow exempt by this limitation? What makes you think their OS can be significantly less resource demanding and still go toe-to-toe with PS4/X1 in terms of OS features, apps,  video sharing, networking, etc. that people have come to expect out of their home consoles. Because the Switch is a home console first and foremost according to Nintendo. Like it or not, that means the PS4 and X1 are the NS's direct competition.

People will decide if the console is first a handheld or a homeconsole, I think is deeply stupid to believe semantics will change its fate.



oniyide on 30 October 2016
freebs2 said:

4GB is good. It was unrealistic expecting more considering the form factor. For 2 years most XB1/PS4 games were ported to X360/PS3, with 512mb ram (1/8th compared to Switch). People don't seem to be grasping the concept of scalability.

besides the sports games what cross gen games are being made now?



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poklane on 30 October 2016
OttoniBastos said:
Honest question: do people really expect third party support outside of cross gen games and japanese games?

We have AAA games where the minimum requirement is 6GB since 2014.

There's probably a few projects underway, but by late 2018/early 2019 I'd expect 3rd party support to be as good as dead with these specs.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 30 October 2016

Would be silly if anyone was expecting more considering its a handheld



                  

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PwerlvlAmy on 30 October 2016

Seems about right for a handheld. Wish Kimishima would stop lying and just tell everyone the truth. This is a handheld first,HC second,not the other way around like he claims



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Miyamotoo on 30 October 2016
potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:

We already have confirmed list of 3rd party partners.

3GB RAM for games (PS4/XB1 have around 5GB for games), is enuf for PS4/XB1 3rd party ports in 720p.

Quick questionL What makes you think that whatever is forcing Sony and MS to dedicate 3 gb of RAM to their OS that Nintendo is somehow exempt by this limitation? What makes you think their OS can be significantly less resource demanding and still go toe-to-toe with PS4/X1 in terms of OS features, apps,  video sharing, networking, etc. that people have come to expect out of their home consoles.

Because the Switch is a home console first and foremost according to Nintendo. Like it or not, that means the PS4 and X1 are the NS's direct competition.

Because there is a info saying that Switch OS will actually use 800MB, and I having hard time beliving that Switch OS will eat 2GB and that they will leve just 2GB for games.

Thats just Nintendo PR because they have 3DS to sell this holiday season and at least until Switch arrives and because Wii U is already dead, from Switch video it's very obvious that Switch is hybrid.



SvennoJ on 30 October 2016

4GB is barely enough for today's games in 1080p, which is what the switch is supposed to do when docked? But isn't this thing supposed to last for at least 5 years. 4GB ram in 2022?

Also noticed people comparing it to the Vita, yet they're forgetting the Vita had more memory than the ps3 and 360 coming out 5 years after those. Switch is releasing 4 years after the ps4 and x1 with half the memory.