If the Wii U had just kept the wiimote/classic controller setup of the wii they could have made it much more powerful. The gamepad drove the price of the console way up beyond its specs.

Your original post was wrong though. Throughout this thread multiple people besides myself have pointed out the flaws in your logic, but you just keep repeating "but modern hardware" and presenting your dreams and speculations as fact.

Nobody will take you seriously when you claim that Switch will run PS4 games in 720p "without noticeable downgrades".

but in the case of the PS360/Wii look how well the multiplats sold better on the HD twins than the Wii unless it was Just Dance or some exercise game. Thats with Wii selling better

In my last post wrote why my original post wasn't wrong and you keep like acting like I specily said GC GPU and RAM.

People saying their opinions like every other peoples, but there's no any flaws in my logic regardles what I wrote about Switch, actually most of staff I wrote are facts but you are not informed about those staffs (even with a basic knowledge of gaming hardware). Its very possible that Switch will be able to run 3rd party ports just in 720p and with some downgrades, and I gave very logical explanation why is that very possible.

I think people just need to accept this is not going to be a graphics powerhouse. That's not what this is about.

Comfortably I think it can do PS3/360/Wii U ports and even that I think will make it sweat a bit. Full on PS4 games that are built specifically for next-gen consoles are even making a system like the XB1 choke, a Switch will like sputter hard trying to run those more ambitious titles. 

I think actually there will be as many, maybe more PS3/360 ports for this thing than PS4/XB1 from third parties. Third party pubs got a shit-ton of PS3/360 content just laying around, a lot of those games could be ported and now you can play them on the go without much fuss.

Anyone seriously acting like they love Call of Duty, Red Dead 2, GTA, etc. etc. etc. but don't have a PS4 or XB1? C'mon. If you like those types of games you already have a PS4 or are getting one in the next 12 months no matter what. Stop lyin' ;).

Personally I don't think Nintendo really even wants PS4/XB1 tier graphics. The increase in budget in Nintendo's eyes likely isn't worth it and they just got started really with the Wii U. Sony/MS got like 8+ years to work on PS3/360 tier graphics, and even then the switch up was painful for them, Nintendo likely has no intention of going up that high just four years later.

And lets be real. Third parties are going to treat this thing like crap too, lets be honest.

Those first wave of ports will predictably sell OK-to-crap, Nintendo enthusiasts will get red-faced on message boards when the games are compared pixel for pixel versus PS4 and (yes) PS4 Pro, and scramble to blame the developer because it doesn't have all the features, and it'll devolve into the same shit-storm of third parties blaming Nintendo, Nintendo fans blaming the third party, Nintendo not giving a fuck either way, etc. etc. etc. rinse, wash, repeat. 

You've seen this movie before, you know where this is going. 

Nobady said that Switch is power house, its expected that will be around half of power of XB1 and around 3x more stronger than Wii U for instance. Also fact is that Switch hardware has very modern hardware/tech that will be offcourse much more closer to PS4/XB1 (even more modern than PS4/XB1) than to outdated PS3/Xbox360/WiI U tech/hardware.

Of Course that Nintendo wasn't going after power house with Switch, but it seems they were going for very modern console that is easy to develop/port for it.

At end, how much exactly 3rd party support Switch will have depends mostly from popularity and sales of Switch itself.

They made a system using MOBILE chips, with a fat chunk of the hardware budget tied into an LCD screen and a battery for portable play. If Sony made a dock for the Vita that let it suddenly play on TV (which I'm sure they could), that doesn't make it a console. Not in my eyes anyway, in the real world no one gives a crap about what "PR term" you dub your product either, that is the for *public* to decide actually. Nintendo can call it a home vacuum cleaner if they want, it doesn't matter. Just like they said the Wii U would revolutionize the living room (more like the bargain clearance bin). 

I don't know if sales even motivate third parties. Demographics are a problem for Nintendo too. Lets forget Wii U. What about the 3DS? Honestly for a 60+ million selling device, the third party support for it is mediocre, possibly the worst I've ever seen for a system that's sold above 50 million units. 

Nothing from Western developers really but the same old LEGO licensed game (LEGO Fifty Shades of Gray anytime soon?). 

Even Japanese developers, 3DS had some really decent third party support early on. Resident Evil. Street Fighter. Metal Gear Solid. Kingdom Hearts. Ridge Racer. Tekken. Dead or Alive. What the fuck happened to all that? Even Capcom which supports 3DS with Monster Hunter ... I mean no 3DS for Resident Evil Revealtions 2? Even the Vita got a version of that, it's like they went out of their way to take a shit on the 3DS. Where's Final Fantasy? How many systems you gotta sell in Japan to get some Final Fantasy on a system that isn't a "music" game? Nothing else from Capcom really other than Monster Hunter. Megaman? Nope. How about another Street Fighter? Nope. Hey Namco, new Ridge Racer? Nope. Sega? Anything cool other than the 50th Sonic game? Nope. 

Wow more Ram doesn't lead to better graphics.
The Nvidea 3gig 1060 model out performs both PS4/XB1. Ram is good but the average current gen game only needs 4gigs.
My old AMD 6970 has 2gigs of Ram and guess what.. the Nvidia GTX counter only had 1.5gigs of Vram and guess which card outperformed the other.. wasnt my AMD model.
My biggest issue with Switch is hoping it uses separate Ram for its OS. 

For a Tablet 4gigs is a powerhouse. Remember this is also for 3DS owners.

I relly dont see whats your point here!? So what are you saying hardware is what makes home console!? You do realise that PS4/XB1 is mobile laptop chip also? Switch acts like real home console and like real handheld. Like real home console you can play on TV, you can use separate controller to play on TV, you can play in local multiplayer on TV, basically has all feature of home console. Like hand held you can take it with you and play same game everywhere you want.

3DS is very underpowered, 240p, and has dual screen, so its very hard to port games for 3DS from other platforms. But with Switch, they will have home console and handheld game in same package.

PS4 and XB1 use a laptop chip for a CPU because the system's have such a power hungry desktop GPU + RAM that a corner had to be cut somewhere. Can't have 250+ watt console, even for Sony or MS that is extreme. 

The hybrid concept is no mystery to me, I am one of the few posters who has been posting that exact concept for over a year now and I've even been pointing at the Tegra X1 processor for well over a year now too as an example of something along the lines of what Nintendo would use. They basically made almost exactly what I thought they would. 

What I am saying though is Nintendo's "branding" doesn't mean shit. The public decides what a product is, Nintendo can "brand" it as a tampon if they want. They doesn't mean the consumer is going to see it that way. 

I think for now Nintendo wants it to be known as a "home console" because they still need to sell 3DS units and also because the games and system are likely to be more expensive than the standard Nintendo portable at least for a while. Over time, I think you will see them drop the "home console" branding. Nintendo loves to jump on buzz words and then drop them like a one night stand when it doesn't serve their purposes any longer. See also: DS is totally a third pillar, not a Game Boy successor. 

I'd reccomend not drinking the corporate kool-aid, many a Nintendo fan has made themselves look very foolish in the end when they go too far into the deep end of that pool (see also: SuperMetalDave64 and his holy quest for the Super Nintendo Return of the King AMD Polaris wunder-console NX).