Asedebck said:
the ns is basically a mobile phone/tablet. Uses same arm socs. |
I certainly don't think it'll be a power problem.
Asedebck said:
the ns is basically a mobile phone/tablet. Uses same arm socs. |
I certainly don't think it'll be a power problem.
bigtakilla said:
Because the tablet won't run at full power. It will essentially go into a "power saver" mode if you will. In the dock the tablet will run at full power. |
I think there will be a boost there, but it won't be massive.
Even at "full power" there are still physical constraints, that tablet chasis is still very small (compared to a console it's like what? 1/10th the size of an XBox?).
Even with the fan, it will overheat if its running at like 20+ watts continously.
Soundwave said:
I think there will be a boost there, but it won't be massive. Even at "full power" there are still physical constraints, that tablet chasis is still very small (compared to a console it's like what? 1/10th the size of an XBox?). Even with the fan, it will overheat if its running at like 20+ watts continously. |
Yeah, pretty much expecting NS games to look like NS games. No drastic difference.
| Soundwave said: I think NS will actually get the bigger Japanese IP. |
If western support fall through, Nintendo can push the NS as an asian flavour device. You get all the exclusives and mostly non-western 3rd support. It would at least set them apart from the others. If their improved marketing keeps up, that could push some good numbers by itself with a good price.
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| bigtakilla said: 1: Major third party multiplats are going to be worse on NS, and will more than likely run like garbage in handheld mode. This will more than likely mean these games will only be there for a year or two then disappear (like Wii U). The carts by Eurogamer has leaked are 32 GB. Keep that in mind. 2: The above will matter less because Japanese devs are gonna support the crap out of it with big budget exclusives. Remember Bravely Default? At 1080p it's gonna blow your mind. Japanese devs are gonna be there because its gonna sell like mad. I don't see an outcome where this isn't a raging success in Japan. 3: Switch is a bad name. Like, REALLY BAD. People are pretty much just calling it NS, which doesn't roll off the tongue either. This point in the overall scheme of things matters little to none though. 4: Outside Japan, its sales will be good, but will more than likely trail the Scorpio and PS4 Pro. That said, it will also be successful. It'll be a 7th gen scenario where all gaming companies earn big profits. 5: NS exclusives will mostly run just fine on the go. When they aren't trying to appeal to a range of gaming specs from handheld NS, to full blown 4k HDR gaming with Scorpio, the games will work just fine in portable mode. 6: The amount of 1st party games is going to be incredible. The same engines Nintendo had to struggle making during the Wii U era have now been made (thank you Retro), and all the devs gotta do now is make games, which they have assets from most their franchises already made as well. And hell yeah are they going to. It's gonna be a great time for lovers of 1st party. This will be bolstered by films and IOS games. 7: The tiny controllers in two player mode will feel awkward and will likely rarely get used. This is just obvious. 8: Battery life will likely be 3 hours roughly. Expecting more is crazy. 9: Nintendo already confirmed there is not another GPU, ect in the dock. Games will look the same with a resolution bump and better frame rate. It's just the way it is guys. "Providing power to the system" just means the tablet will run off the wall socket, your secret sauce is in another castle. That said, the games will look fine. Noticeably worse than the others, but fine. 10: Let's get back to reality. This gen for Nintendo is gonna be great because of the software, not the hardware or graphical power, and that's fine.
Well that's it. I know this will come off as obvious to most people, but let's get the rest on board to not be set up for disappointment. |
1. I don't think it'll be that bad, even the multiplats the Wii U got, most of them ran fine, Switch is a more powerful system than Wii U, that according to rumours is very easy to develop for. I find it more likely that Switch get a lot of third party support, than Pro and Scorpio, since making a Pro and Scorpio specific version won't increase the sales of the games, when the regular PS4 and Xbox One still need to be supported, so it's more attractive to make a Switch version, where the developers can meet a new audience. The cost and time it takes to optimise for those high end systems have increased so much, so I think a lot of developers will stop focussing as much on graphics. And honestly I can't see the difference between the Xbox One version and PS4 version of most games, even though PS4 is 1.5 as powerful, so if Switch is a 0.7-0.8 teraflop system, it should be able to run decent version of most games. Whether Switch will get lasting third party support or not will depend on the sales of the system and the sales of the third party games, not on the specs.
2. Agree
3. It's a fine name, it's easy to understand, fits the concept and sounds nice. Some people have just gotten too used to NX, which is a terrible name for a system btw.
4. Not behind Scorpio and Pro, unless Microsoft and Sony stops supporting or producing the base PS4 and Xbone. The slim models are cheaper and offer the same in the mainstream audiences eyes.
5. Agree
6. Agree
7. They will feel a little ackward, but they will be used a lot I assure you. It's a way to play multiplayer without buying any accesories whatsoever.
8. Agree, I fear it will be in that range for AAA titles. I expect Switch to get many lesser demanding games as well though, like Professor Layton, Phoenix Wright, Mario & Luigi. For those types of games, you'll be able to play for a much longer time. But in general I think the battery life will be mediocre, but acceptable.
9. Agree, extra power in a dock wouldn't be a cheap nor smart design, doesn't help the developers either.
10. Agree
Do people really not think PS4 Pro is not going to sell? It will replace the standard PS4 model in time, it's going to sell a lot.
I agree with the list. I think the problem with a lot of people is that they see the NS as a home console and give it the same expectations people would have for a home console. As much as Nintendo wants to insist it's a home console, it isn't; it's a tablet gaming device that has tv-out capabilities. In fact, I see the NS as Nintendo's unofficial departure from the traditional home console market and the creation of their own middle-ground market between consoles and handhelds. That being said, while I don't expect western 3rd party ports for their big games, I expect the same amount/kind of support the 3DS got with a full unified 1st party library along with some added support from small Japanese developers that will either port their smartphone/Vita games over to the NS or just outright move all development over to it.
| Soundwave said: Do people really not think PS4 Pro is not going to sell? It will replace the standard PS4 model in time, it's going to sell a lot. |
Depends. I assume all PS4 games will be playable on both systems, as Sony says. If Sony stops producing the slim, then the Pro will sell really well. If the slim will remain as the cheaper altenative, it will by far be the prefered version for casual PS gamers, who anyway waited for the price to drop before buying the system to play fifa, madden etc. The hardcore PS gamers already have a PS4, so the question is how many will "douple dip"?
| Soundwave said: Do people really not think PS4 Pro is not going to sell? It will replace the standard PS4 model in time, it's going to sell a lot. |
Doesn't matter. There will be a minimum of 50 million non-pro PS4's out there in working condition. No publisher is going to limit themselves to PS4 Pro.
Areym said:
I mean, he has the right to express his opinion, even if it sounds like facts. The same can be said for people who claim it is "blowing everybody's minds." We just don't have all the info as of right now. The "wow" and reveal factor is certainly riding high but I'd urge everybody to really curve their hype, we (gamers as a whole) have been burned far too many times cause of the hype train. That being said, I can see Switch being more successful than the Wii U, I think that most people can agree on, just based on the name switch alone. |
I didn't say there was anything wrong with expressing opinion. I even said he has every right and is entitled to have his own opinion. All I said was saying that said opinion is the 'most likely outcome' of something doesn't work since that means anyone's opinion can be seen as the 'most likely outcome' if they wanted it to be.
If somebody is super hyped for the Switch and is even to the point of overhyping it, they can make a thread saying "The Switch selling over 300 million is the most likely scenario", and any other thing you can think of just because that's what they think is all i'm trying to say.
You said what i've been saying, there's just not enough information right now to base any of this on.