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Jesus Christ why couldn't you people just voted for Bernie.



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Norris2k said:
Jumpin said:
What exactly has Hillary done that matches all the crap what Drumpf's done?

For example, this. Basically, she defended a child rapist that she knew was guilty, that there were evidences again, and she just got him out of jail. And she laugh about it. Oh, and she had to show the raped girl was unreliable, so she built a story of her being a pathological liar. So, there is a woman that was raped as a child, her rapist never convicted, and her reputation destroyed, and that is because of Clinton's direct action. What did Drumpf that matches that ?

Might want to fact check that a bit...

There was a case where a girl was raped.  In the case, Hillary was assigned as a public defender.  A public defender's job is to defend their client.  The prosecution's job is to prosecute them.  Not making an effort to defend your client is the kind of thing that leads to a mistrial or getting disbarred.  Clinton requested to be taken off of the case, but the request was denied.  

Did Clinton know the client was guilty?  Of course not.  She wasn't present at the event, so there is no way she could have known.  The only way she could have known is if there was a strong case, which the prosecution is responsible for providing.  Her job as a public defender is to defend him, regardless of her personal belief.  That's what a defense attorney is supposed to do. It's not like she had any special kind of authority at the time that could be used to provide an unfair advantage.

With that being said, she did not argue that he was innocent.  The defendent pleaded guilty.  This was something that was encouraged by the victim and the victim's mother, as she felt the process of the trial was further traumatizing.  A plea deal was reached, which is fairly typical in these cases, and the person was convicted of sexual assault (not rape I believe).

As for "building a story of her being a pathological liar", not really.  There were several people, like you know experts in child psychology and stuff, who interviewed the victim.  Cause, that's the sort of thing you do when trying to build a case.  And those experts found that the victim was emotionally unstable. People do lie sometimes, even about being raped.  There is a man who was a promising football player who served 6 years in prison for a false rape claim.  As an attorney, that's something that needs to be questioned.

As for laughing, you can see that in the clip you showed. She chuckled about the unreliability of lie detector tests.  Keep in mind, she thought he was guilty, and he pleaded guilty.  

What Hillary did was, her job.  A public defender's job is not to send guilty people to jail, it's to defend their client.  We have them to ensure that everyone has legal representation regardless of income.  This can potentially lead to people being found innocent of crimes they commit.  On the flip side, if you have no public defenders, or you have public defenders who only do their job if they believe their client is innocent, then you have situations like how to make a murderer.  You can also have cases like the central park 5, who served jail time for a crime they didn't commit, and were later exonerated based on DNA evidence.  Despite the evidence Donald Drumpf (who advocated for the death penalty for them) still insists they are guilty.  

If you have an issue with the way the legal system works, that's fine, but demonizing Hillary for doing her job is silly, especially when you have most of the details wrong.  If you take issue with her actions, then you're basically saying that public defenders shouldn't exist.

Which kind of goes back to what I said earlier.  Donald Drumpf actually did the things people say he did, and there is evidence of him doing them.  Most of the things about Hillary are things that are either exaggerated or wholly made up, that you find on Breitbart or on internet memes.



The Republican Party has been hijacked by a lunatic. To think that we could even consider making a man of this demeanor the most powerful man in the world alarms me greatly. The GOP had the chance to stop him to refusing to endorse him but they failed and now the chickens have come home to roost.
Behind closed doors Republicans think Trump is heading for a crushing defeat and they are publicly distancing themselves from him so that when the fall out / blame game begins they can say "I told you so" and position themselves to survive this event.
American conservative politics is at a crossroad. After George Bush damaged the brand so severely reform is needed but the far right christian wing of that party still vote like it's 1880 and are frankly too extreme to win over the swing states.
Mark my words, Clinton has this in the bag....



JWeinCom said:
Norris2k said:

For example, this. Basically, she defended a child rapist that she knew was guilty, that there were evidences again, and she just got him out of jail. And she laugh about it. Oh, and she had to show the raped girl was unreliable, so she built a story of her being a pathological liar. So, there is a woman that was raped as a child, her rapist never convicted, and her reputation destroyed, and that is because of Clinton's direct action. What did Drumpf that matches that ?

Might want to fact check that a bit...

There was a case where a girl was raped.  In the case, Hillary was assigned as a public defender.  A public defender's job is to defend their client.  The prosecution's job is to prosecute them.  Not making an effort to defend your client is the kind of thing that leads to a mistrial or getting disbarred.  Clinton requested to be taken off of the case, but the request was denied.  

Did Clinton know the client was guilty?  Of course not.  She wasn't present at the event, so there is no way she could have known.  The only way she could have known is if there was a strong case, which the prosecution is responsible for providing.  Her job as a public defender is to defend him, regardless of her personal belief.  That's what a defense attorney is supposed to do. It's not like she had any special kind of authority at the time that could be used to provide an unfair advantage.

With that being said, she did not argue that he was innocent.  The defendent pleaded guilty.  This was something that was encouraged by the victim and the victim's mother, as she felt the process of the trial was further traumatizing.  A plea deal was reached, which is fairly typical in these cases, and the person was convicted of sexual assault (not rape I believe).

As for "building a story of her being a pathological liar", not really.  There were several people, like you know experts in child psychology and stuff, who interviewed the victim.  Cause, that's the sort of thing you do when trying to build a case.  And those experts found that the victim was emotionally unstable. People do lie sometimes, even about being raped.  There is a man who was a promising football player who served 6 years in prison for a false rape claim.  As an attorney, that's something that needs to be questioned.

As for laughing, you can see that in the clip you showed. She chuckled about the unreliability of lie detector tests.  Keep in mind, she thought he was guilty, and he pleaded guilty.  

What Hillary did was, her job.  A public defender's job is not to send guilty people to jail, it's to defend their client.  We have them to ensure that everyone has legal representation regardless of income.  This can potentially lead to people being found innocent of crimes they commit.  On the flip side, if you have no public defenders, or you have public defenders who only do their job if they believe their client is innocent, then you have situations like how to make a murderer.  You can also have cases like the central park 5, who served jail time for a crime they didn't commit, and were later exonerated based on DNA evidence.  Despite the evidence Donald Drumpf (who advocated for the death penalty for them) still insists they are guilty.  

If you have an issue with the way the legal system works, that's fine, but demonizing Hillary for doing her job is silly, especially when you have most of the details wrong.  If you take issue with her actions, then you're basically saying that public defenders shouldn't exist.

Which kind of goes back to what I said earlier.  Donald Drumpf actually did the things people say he did, and there is evidence of him doing them.  Most of the things about Hillary are things that are either exaggerated or wholly made up, that you find on Breitbart or on internet memes.

Also, Drumpf stands personally accused of raping a 13 year old girl.  Sexually assaulting numerous women.  Harassing countless others.  And more women keep coming forward, despite Drumpf doing everything he can to ruin them financially and psychologically.  He's basically Bill Cosby of 2016, so if sexual assault should be used as a measuring stick to evaluate candidates, Hillary fares a lot better than Drumpf.



SuaveSocialist said:

Also, Drumpf stands personally accused of raping a 13 year old girl.  Sexually assaulting numerous women.  Harassing countless others.  And more women keep coming forward, despite Drumpf doing everything he can to ruin them financially and psychologically.  He's basically Bill Cosby of 2016, so if sexual assault should be used as a measuring stick to evaluate candidates, Hillary fares a lot better than Drumpf.

Sadly even if all that was true, I'd still vote for Drumpf. For me its more about the economy and the direction of the country more than the chracter of the candidates.

Hilary = more Obama, and that's a direction many of us do not want. Its inevitably gonna be a mess as I predicted with Obama.



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okr said:

What exactly has Hillary done?

look on youtube for Haitian president exposes clinton foundation.



Didn't she defend a dude who sexually harassed a 12 year old?



 

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Mr Puggsly said:
SuaveSocialist said:

Also, Drumpf stands personally accused of raping a 13 year old girl.  Sexually assaulting numerous women.  Harassing countless others.  And more women keep coming forward, despite Drumpf doing everything he can to ruin them financially and psychologically.  He's basically Bill Cosby of 2016, so if sexual assault should be used as a measuring stick to evaluate candidates, Hillary fares a lot better than Drumpf.

Sadly even if all that was true, I'd still vote for Drumpf. For me its more about the economy and the direction of the country more than the chracter of the candidates.

Hilary = more Obama, and that's a direction many of us do not want. Its inevitably gonna be a mess as I predicted with Obama.

Maybe you just vote republicans no matter what they do, even if they put a donkey. In fact that's what they have done.



The GOP has completely lost touch with what Republicans were supposed to be over a century and a half ago. They've become no better than the vile, corrupt, and outright anti-constitution party that is the Democrat Party. Politicians from both sides want the same thing at the end of the day; political power as a means to line their pockets, vice actually working for the good of the American people. Of course they want Trump to leave; he's a threat to them, and not because he's necessarily the one to fundamentally change the system, but rather because he would be living proof that Americans aren't the stupid sheep that these politicians believe to be and that we still have the power to choose someone besides them. Trump is an example.



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SuaveSocialist said:
JWeinCom said:

Might want to fact check that a bit...

There was a case where a girl was raped.  In the case, Hillary was assigned as a public defender.  A public defender's job is to defend their client.  The prosecution's job is to prosecute them.  Not making an effort to defend your client is the kind of thing that leads to a mistrial or getting disbarred.  Clinton requested to be taken off of the case, but the request was denied.  

Did Clinton know the client was guilty?  Of course not.  She wasn't present at the event, so there is no way she could have known.  The only way she could have known is if there was a strong case, which the prosecution is responsible for providing.  Her job as a public defender is to defend him, regardless of her personal belief.  That's what a defense attorney is supposed to do. It's not like she had any special kind of authority at the time that could be used to provide an unfair advantage.

With that being said, she did not argue that he was innocent.  The defendent pleaded guilty.  This was something that was encouraged by the victim and the victim's mother, as she felt the process of the trial was further traumatizing.  A plea deal was reached, which is fairly typical in these cases, and the person was convicted of sexual assault (not rape I believe).

As for "building a story of her being a pathological liar", not really.  There were several people, like you know experts in child psychology and stuff, who interviewed the victim.  Cause, that's the sort of thing you do when trying to build a case.  And those experts found that the victim was emotionally unstable. People do lie sometimes, even about being raped.  There is a man who was a promising football player who served 6 years in prison for a false rape claim.  As an attorney, that's something that needs to be questioned.

As for laughing, you can see that in the clip you showed. She chuckled about the unreliability of lie detector tests.  Keep in mind, she thought he was guilty, and he pleaded guilty.  

What Hillary did was, her job.  A public defender's job is not to send guilty people to jail, it's to defend their client.  We have them to ensure that everyone has legal representation regardless of income.  This can potentially lead to people being found innocent of crimes they commit.  On the flip side, if you have no public defenders, or you have public defenders who only do their job if they believe their client is innocent, then you have situations like how to make a murderer.  You can also have cases like the central park 5, who served jail time for a crime they didn't commit, and were later exonerated based on DNA evidence.  Despite the evidence Donald Drumpf (who advocated for the death penalty for them) still insists they are guilty.  

If you have an issue with the way the legal system works, that's fine, but demonizing Hillary for doing her job is silly, especially when you have most of the details wrong.  If you take issue with her actions, then you're basically saying that public defenders shouldn't exist.

Which kind of goes back to what I said earlier.  Donald Drumpf actually did the things people say he did, and there is evidence of him doing them.  Most of the things about Hillary are things that are either exaggerated or wholly made up, that you find on Breitbart or on internet memes.

Also, Drumpf stands personally accused of raping a 13 year old girl.  Sexually assaulting numerous women.  Harassing countless others.  And more women keep coming forward, despite Drumpf doing everything he can to ruin them financially and psychologically.  He's basically Bill Cosby of 2016, so if sexual assault should be used as a measuring stick to evaluate candidates, Hillary fares a lot better than Drumpf.

 I love how you leftist nutjobs are all about this "guilty until proven innocent" mentality when it comes to anything that can support your agenda. Do you have proof of these claims? Do have any irrefutable evidence that supports Trump just being outright guilty? I think not. We have a judicial system for a reason, and that reason is to prevent the political left jailing everyone in sight for the crime of not falling into their spectrum. Same argument applies to Bill Cosby, btw. 

Also, love the username. Please tell me about how awesome of a system Socialism is and how successful it has been throughout history. Write me an essay on it. When you're just deliver it to me. I'll be waiting in the mile-long bread lines in Venezuela. -_-

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