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Forums - Nintendo - Wii-U version of Bloodstained may be cancelled in favor of an NX release

Well if I cant have the physical WiiU version, then I want a physical NX version! That's a given I hope.



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I saw this, which is really unfortunate

Mainly the reason why I will not kickstart video games



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Kresnik said:
XanderXT said:

What? I just read their kickstarter page, nowhere did they say that they were gonna hire a porting studio. In fact, they were gonna do it themselves.

And I never said they did.  I was saying funds were raised to develop for extra platforms, which can be done either in house or farmed out.  Clearly would've been a good idea when they plan on releasing for 6+ platforms, especially considering the amount of money raised.

Mind me asking why you're so defensive about this, lol?  Is the fact that your username is Xander and the developer of Hyper Light Drifter's name is Alex a clue? :P

Hyper Light Drifter is a small game. They wouldn't need a porting team to port it.

I'm not being defensive, I'm just being logical. You can't compare this to Bloodstained because:

1. The size of their development team is different.

2. Bloodstained is much more ambitious.



Platina said:
I saw this, which is really unfortunate

Mainly the reason why I will not kickstart video games

I have tried to talk about the pratfalls of crowdfunding, and why I will never do it with a facebook group I was in, and the blowback among it's proponents was significant, even with demonstable evidence to support my idea that the potential for flim-flamerry exists. They make, I buy. That's my policy.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

I wonder if this does anything to the Vita version at all?

Armature was supposed to write the middleware bring Bloodstained's UE4 build over WiiU and Vita. Considering Vita is evaporating from the West even more quickly than the WiiU they may drop the Vita version - or focus exclusively on it?



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

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I'm kinda in the camp that kickstarter games are pretty much a scam. Even if they do happen there are very few examples of good kickstarter games.



XanderXT said:

Hyper Light Drifter is a small game. They wouldn't need a porting team to port it.

I'm not being defensive, I'm just being logical. You can't compare this to Bloodstained because:

1. The size of their development team is different.

2. Bloodstained is much more ambitious.

Whatever you say Mr. Preston ;)

But more seriously, I'm beginning to forget what the point is here.  That we should be more sympathetic to Hyper Light Drifter?  Or Bloodstained?  Or neither?  Or both?

Sure, team sizes are different, but if you go to Kickstarter for money then add stretch goals for certain platforms, you make provisions for how you can get the games on to those platforms.  Team size; ambition of game has nothing to do with it - you factor in the effort it'll take to get the games onto those platforms and budget accordingly.  By the looks of things, HLD budgeted $100k while Bloodstained budgeted $250k, which sounds about proportionate based on what you're telling me about ambitions of projects.

As a side note, I do find HLD's situation more excusable given the fact that he assumed the issues between Gamemaker & Nintendo would've been worked out and they never were, which is largely out of his control.  Bloodstained being based in an engine which never worked with WiiU or Vita is just stupid.  Hence why I never backed it.



bunchanumbers said:
I'm kinda in the camp that kickstarter games are pretty much a scam. Even if they do happen there are very few examples of good kickstarter games.

Some good has come from Kickstarter.

The Good: Pillars of eternity, Divinity : Original Sin, Yooka-Laylee (looks great).

The bad:  Shadowrun returns, planetary annihilation, wasteland 2, Mighty Nr 9.



bunchanumbers said:
I'm kinda in the camp that kickstarter games are pretty much a scam. Even if they do happen there are very few examples of good kickstarter games.

It goes to show that money will always be more important than the fans for most developers. I mean the game has been payed for by us, so they have nothing to lose, but still they dont want to release it on a failing console because theres less chance to make money on it.



fleischr said:
I wonder if this does anything to the Vita version at all?

Armature was supposed to write the middleware bring Bloodstained's UE4 build over WiiU and Vita. Considering Vita is evaporating from the West even more quickly than the WiiU they may drop the Vita version - or focus exclusively on it?
cycycychris said:
It's a shame that they might have to cancel it, but I can understand why. but at the same time, the port is already funded by the fans, so in my opinion, they should do a poll of the Wii U survey system selectors and see there opinion on making this version into the NX, since they are the ones paying for the port.

Makes me wonder the future of the Vita version. Since the system is dead in the west and barely hanging up there in Japan. It will surely be discontinued in most area in the west in 2017 making the market a bit slim for it also... But I guess one thing going for it is that it won't have a replacement, but the available audience to buy it on Vita all depends on what type of support it will get through it final days.

It's a strange one.  We know Wii U is going to be all but discontinued by March 2017 seeing their shipment forecast for this upcoming year; the number of games scheduled for release beyond April 2017 and the scheduled release window of the NX.  Vita, we just don't know - I suspect the system will be alive well beyond March 2017 in Japan; but the west is another story, I don't think there's been any 'official' discontinuation notice but equally there's very little stock left around as it is.

The other issue is successors - WiiU has one that it's logical to move to; Vita has none, so who knows where that audience will move.

With that said, if the WiiU version goes, I am 99% certain that the Vita version will be canned as well.  Either you support legacy systems or you don't; I don't think one will get special treatment when the other doesn't.