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pokoko on 06 October 2016
Nuvendil said:
pokoko said:

No problem.  It just struck me as odd.

Also, to be fair, many of those Skyrim mods won't be coming for either console, either because consoles can't run them or because the authors have moved on.  Some of them will probably even be redundant, given the upgrade.

As for Fallout 4, which I am more familiar with, I think the list looks much different.  Many of the mods I really depend on, the mods that affect game-play rather than offer cosmetic changes, they don't bring in any outside assets--or, at least, that's not the main part of the mod.  I see a lot of mods in the Fallout 4 top 30 that should be possible.

The main question is going to be scripts and I'm not sure if anyone has that answer yet.

Anything using an external Script Extender (SKSE for Skyrim) won't be possible due to the more locked down nature of the console versions and due to the fact you have to use the SKSE to launch the game for it to be active and the consoles can't be made to do that.  So any Fallout 4 mods requiring something similar won't be possible.

As for them not coming for either console, my main point is those aren't even possible.  So even comparables created by new modders won't happen.  And as for them being redundant, if the HD textures BGS is using are the originals put out for PC, I would argue these aren't redundant as the original PC HD textures weren't that impressive.  And of course things like Skyrim Flora Overhaul add new meshes and textures to the game to enhance variety and more fully realize the climate and setting of the game.  And a lot of these mods have a variety of versions to help with performance.

But this might all be moot cause we don't even know if the mods for Skyrim will be compatible with the new remaster.  Which means the enormous library already available won't be there and it will be entirely dependant on new modders and returning veterans. 

I know F4SE and SKSE dependent mods aren't going to work--which obviously leaves some of the best mods off consoles completely--but the question I see people asking is if new scripts created inside the creation kit count as "outside assets" or not.

If not, then Fallout 4 on PS4 should get some excellent mods.  The authors might have to tweak things but the potential is certainly there.  Not as good as what Xbox One owners might get but still very worthwhile.

However, if that won't work on the PS4, then there is no real recovery.  PS4 owners who are interested in those games need to get together and demand some answers because the difference will be massive.



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Nuvendil on 06 October 2016
pokoko said:
Nuvendil said:

Anything using an external Script Extender (SKSE for Skyrim) won't be possible due to the more locked down nature of the console versions and due to the fact you have to use the SKSE to launch the game for it to be active and the consoles can't be made to do that.  So any Fallout 4 mods requiring something similar won't be possible.

As for them not coming for either console, my main point is those aren't even possible.  So even comparables created by new modders won't happen.  And as for them being redundant, if the HD textures BGS is using are the originals put out for PC, I would argue these aren't redundant as the original PC HD textures weren't that impressive.  And of course things like Skyrim Flora Overhaul add new meshes and textures to the game to enhance variety and more fully realize the climate and setting of the game.  And a lot of these mods have a variety of versions to help with performance.

But this might all be moot cause we don't even know if the mods for Skyrim will be compatible with the new remaster.  Which means the enormous library already available won't be there and it will be entirely dependant on new modders and returning veterans. 

I know F4SE and SKSE dependent mods aren't going to work--which obviously leaves some of the best mods off consoles completely--but the question I see people asking is if new scripts created inside the creation kit count as "outside assets" or not.

If not, then Fallout 4 on PS4 should get some excellent mods.  The authors might have to tweak things but the potential is certainly there.  Not as good as what Xbox One owners might get but still very worthwhile.

However, if that won't work on the PS4, then there is no real recovery.  PS4 owners who are interested in those games need to get together and demand some answers because the difference will be massive.

I imagine scripts made in engine will be allowed.  They don't want things brought in from outside is what I understand.  And I imagine Skyrim will be hit harder, F4SE may be less crucial to modding than SKSE which is need for the vast majority of script heavy mods.



globalisateur on 06 October 2016

Talking about mods, the title of this thread is quite misleading, should be something like:

"Partial mods coming to all PS4 models and 4K coming to PS4 Pro for Skyrim and Fallout 4"



Areaz32 on 06 October 2016

Anyone with a 4k rig up for taking these pics in-game to show us how it looks currently?



Areaz32 on 06 October 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Areaz32 said:
Anyone with a 4k rig up for taking these pics in-game to show us how it looks currently?

I have a 4K rig and will have screens later (I'll be starting with 1080p, though). 

Awesome. I am really interested in seeing how PS4Pro 4k stacks up to regular 4k.

Propably the same but who knows.



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Kerotan on 06 October 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
No, I laughed at the idea that you need a $5,000 PC to experience the full offering of mods for Fallout 4.

Also, you don't need to go to such extremes to make a point, unless your argument is just that weak. Which it is, of course. You can experience great mods with custom content AND not have a super expensive PC. Hell, you can experience great custom mods and not even own a PC. I hope that helps :)

Haha I thought you were done replying.  I guess not.  

 

You said unlimited.  unlimited means the ultimate.  

 

A shit ton of crazy mods enabled,  running at 8k and 120fps and we're talking a very expensive pc.  And that isn't even unlimited.  Like we can go higher.  lol 



KLAMarine on 06 October 2016
Kerotan said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

There is no need for Bethesda to QC. If anything there's even less reason for them to do so on PS4 than the other platforms because the PS4 version can only have assets already in the game.

By Sony "not giving in" PS4 owners just get less mod options. Not sure why people keep saying they are happy Sony is limiting what they can experience as gamers lol.

Big deal.  If you want an unlimited experience spend $5000 on an insanely powerful pc.

Where did you get this $5000 price tag from?



LudicrousSpeed on 06 October 2016
Kerotan said:

Haha I thought you were done replying.  I guess not.  

Regarding your bizarre celebrating of Sony limiting gamers doing something you claim to not even care about, yes :)

Kerotan said:

You said unlimited.  unlimited means the ultimate.  


You seem confused, friend. Nowhere in my post does it say anything about unlimited anything. Please try again. Or is this what your argument is reduced to, you shouldn't care about having limited mod support because you can always build a "$5,000 PC"? lol

Kerotan said:

A shit ton of crazy mods enabled,  running at 8k and 120fps and we're talking a very expensive pc.  And that isn't even unlimited.  Like we can go higher.  lol 

That's an awesome story but it doesn't relate to anything I have said about the actual topic :)



Kerotan on 07 October 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
Kerotan said:

Haha I thought you were done replying.  I guess not.  

Regarding your bizarre celebrating of Sony limiting gamers doing something you claim to not even care about, yes :)

Kerotan said:

You said unlimited.  unlimited means the ultimate.  


You seem confused, friend. Nowhere in my post does it say anything about unlimited anything. Please try again. Or is this what your argument is reduced to, you shouldn't care about having limited mod support because you can always build a "$5,000 PC"? lol

Kerotan said:

A shit ton of crazy mods enabled,  running at 8k and 120fps and we're talking a very expensive pc.  And that isn't even unlimited.  Like we can go higher.  lol 

That's an awesome story but it doesn't relate to anything I have said about the actual topic :)

Lol you replied again!  

 

You said Sony was limiting it.  When in reality they're just applying very reasonable rules. 

 

So yes you said limiting and my point which completely went over your head was 99% of people are having a limited experience because they don't have an insane pc that can play it to the absolute max. 



LudicrousSpeed on 07 October 2016

lol so I was right, your entire argument has been reduced to "well if you don't have a $5,000 PC you are limited!" lulz. Holy crap, that's incredible.