You said fact is.  Not fact is in my opinion....  Don't be moving the goal posts.  I didn't say fact is psvr will be the ultimate experience so it's open to interpretation.  And it was in my opinion that it will be the ultimate for me and many others. 

Hi, I can't really follow exactly what you're discussing, but it doesn't seem like it is on-topic to the thread.
Maybe take it away to some other thread, or make your own new bicker thread? K thanks

On-topic, is there any info what this GPU feature is?
I'd guess it might be related to constructing two distinct views to be used for VR...???

It makes it the ultimate for those that want that the most.  Psvr will be my ultimate vr experience for sure.  For such an affordable price and with so many indie,  AA and AAA titles coming it's impossible to turn down.  So appealing. 

Great idea.  If I give you my PayPal will you do the honors? 

If you've played mgs3 you'd know Kerotans don't have souls.  You can shoot them with any weapon you got and all they do is wobble and laugh at you.  

Well how about that secret feature.... lol

Since we're off topic anyway, the current state of VR in Canada

Bestbuy.ca

Oculus rift
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/oculus-rift-vr-headset/10460569.aspx?icmp=oculusrift-shop-header
Release date October 11, CAD 850, available online only
They provide a link to rift ready pcs, cheapest CAD 1700 on sale, normally CAD 2000.  The cheapest equivalent on pc parts picker Canada is CAD 1049 which has more memory and 512GB SSD instead of 1Tb hdd, however OS, motherboard and GPU not included in that price... so closer to CAD 1700
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/builds/#g=121&c=279&G=0&sort=a3&page=1

HTC vive
Sorry, we couldn't find any results in Products.

PSVR
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/playstation-vr.aspx
Release date October 13, CAD 550 standalone, CAD 700 bundle
PS4 starts at CAD 380, pro CAD 500

At the end of the day, psvr will get exposure in stores and likely more marketing too.
However there are no (more) pre-orders available for psvr while rift can still be pre-ordered. I really hope Sony ships enough of them as I want to play Driveclub in VR.

You don't have to finish the game.  There are 64 of my kind dotted all through the game.  Even the first area you visit you'll see a Kerotan. 

And who says I only get 20%? It's a lot higher than that. 

PC lucky to get AAA games - We know that AAA games usually sell better on consoles, so it's natural that publisher do give it priority. Japanese games are mostly missing, a lot of stuff is released late (GTA V), others are a doubt until close to release (The Division), so that's pretty much how it is. What happened is that they finally decided to create "easy to develop for" consoles, so porting is easy and cheap and things are better for consumers and publishers. Wii U decided to not cooperate with this movement and ended up isolated.

PC VR is DOA - Major VR products sold less than 500K units in 6 months. PSVR will probably beat that in the first few weeks, even if it's a flop like I think it will be. I'm really not sold on the idea that people will buy a 400 to 800 dollar add-on to strap on their heads, with a ridiculous cable linking it to another piece of expensive equipment that can fall if you trip on it. It also isolates you from the world, so you can't even check your damn phone, it's unconfortable, the list goes on. Right now, the tech is pretty much crap. It sounds familiar that most of these problems are maximized versions of the ones that made 3D TVs flop. Of course, VR gives a bigger benefit than 3D TVs, but time will tell if it's a trade-off people are willing to do.

PC VR is just indies without AAA - I gave you a link that shows a bunch of indies and no AAA games. If you think I'm wrong, show me the AAA games. Simple links will do it.

PC is DOA - Never said that. Even the lower software sales will mostly mean that some games won't come or will take some time. In most cases, they will just port the console version can call it a day, so it's no big deal anyway. Mind that my example about GPU requirements is to illustrate that PC VR is targeting the smallest portion of PC users, so that's not very smart. I would say that PS VR also alienates a lot of players since it's still quite expensive.

So I have sources to back this up, while you clearly don't since you didn't posted anything except BS here.

So if PC VR dies modders and users will keep it alive? Guess what: if it flops, Vive and Rift will be discontinued. Or modders will build their own VR headsets? Even if you do have one, things break after time. Anyway, a 800 dollar Vive to play indie stuff and bugged modded versions of AAA games doesn't seem an "ultimate experience".

I also think it's quite surprising that you don't see a lof of people giving 400 bucks for a VR add-on but seems to really believe they will pour 600 or 800 bucks on one. It's not very logical.

The problem with PC gamers like your is that you can't accept that a lot of people would rather play on consoles. It's easy, works well, it receives all games, no port-begging needed, no crappy versions like Arkham Knight or MK and now will be the premier VR version (of couse, unless VR becomes the next 3D). People prefer cheaper things that indeed work instead of expensive stuff that's always giving headaches.

Compared to what?. What number are we talking ehre?. As far as I can tell, you are making a abseless assumption without numebrs to back it up. Of course when you do, you'll have to take notice of the users that use Steam, that buy from GoG, Uplay, Origin, B.net, Physical and then of course the general casual market that exists on PC playing simple games like farmville. The amountt hat prefer to also play on PC is quite huge, but you'd rather justy ignore that entirely or argue it away from existence, still won't stop those numbers though.

I don't know why but you seem to claim "no PC isn't DoA", but then turn around to basically put it out behind the shed with your "factual" arguments. It's like you are trying to make yours sound fair, but really you're just trying to go about the long way of saying that PC stands no chance against nearly anything on the console side of things, you can deny that all you want but your arguments prove this. That is unless you now want to take the mantle and make a bunch of arguments that show positives for the PC side, but I'd imagine those to be "insignificant" or tiny enough to never really matter. Just like how high end users don't matter since low end users are the end all to be all.

Also love how you tossed in "port begging". That tends to show where you stand and which side you go with, well that and "the problem with PC gamers like you".

The whole point in making and buying PS4Pro is to use the PSVR so this could be expected. It keeps getting better and better