By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo - The Pokemon Company CEO basically confirmed that NX is hybrid

PwerlvlAmy on 20 September 2016
Soundwave said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
doesnt confirm its a hybrid, he basically told us nothing lol

it COULD be hybrid, but at the same time what he says also fits in line of two systems sharing the same library of games as well

Shared library = effectively the end of the Nintendo home console. 

If you put all the Wii U games on the 3DS, the Wii U's sales would be like 4-5 million instead of its already pathetic 12 million, even if it could play 3DS games.

And to have a shared library you can't have a huge gap in power between the two devices. Bye-bye 2 TFLOP console dreams. 

Not really. Shared library is the only thing that would logically make sense business wise.

 

Having two devices, one for home console to play at home and one that can be taken on the go and have them utilize the same games would make the most sense business wise. Developers would only have to make one game and profit off two devices. Double their profits. This would give more incentive for third parties to jump on board since they'd have to do less work and still get profit from it.

This would also take the risk off Nintendo in alienating one of their demographics,that being the home console users

 

Two system with a shared library makes sense, but making one device thats focused on handheld only would only sell in Japan and do low numbers in EU/NA and will also alienate your home console  demographic or people that might be interested in your system outside the Nintendo fan base



NND: 0047-7271-7918 | XBL: Nights illusion | PSN: GameNChick

Around the Network
bigtakilla on 20 September 2016
Soundwave said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
doesnt confirm its a hybrid, he basically told us nothing lol

it COULD be hybrid, but at the same time what he says also fits in line of two systems sharing the same library of games as well

Shared library = effectively the end of the Nintendo home console. 

If you put all the Wii U games on the 3DS, the Wii U's sales would be like 4-5 million instead of its already pathetic 12 million, even if it could play 3DS games.

And to have a shared library you can't have a huge gap in power between the two devices. Bye-bye 2 TFLOP console dreams. 

But you still effectively open your game library up to everyone. I'm sure there would be more Wii Us sold and more games on it if it were the only system. But also imagine what the software of games like Splatoon would have sold being on both Wii U and 3DS. Nintendo may take a loss on hardware sold, but that's only a part of where their profit comes from. 

That said, there would be NO need to buy both. But that's good for consumers. And they always have the option to buy both if they want their home console games on the go. 



Soundwave on 20 September 2016
bigtakilla said:
Soundwave said:

Shared library = effectively the end of the Nintendo home console. 

If you put all the Wii U games on the 3DS, the Wii U's sales would be like 4-5 million instead of its already pathetic 12 million, even if it could play 3DS games.

And to have a shared library you can't have a huge gap in power between the two devices. Bye-bye 2 TFLOP console dreams. 

But you still effectively open your game library up to everyone. I'm sure there would be more Wii Us sold and more games on it if it were the only system. But also imagine what the software of games like Splatoon would have sold being on both Wii U and 3DS. Nintendo may take a loss on hardware sold, but that's only a part of where their profit comes from. 

That said, there would be NO need to buy both. But that's good for consumers. And they always have the option to buy both if they want their home console games on the go. 

I actually don't think it would help the Wii U at all. 

It would sell even worse than it has if it was basically just a "3DS TV", which is basically all a console is going to be if you put all of its games on the portable. 

Most people when presented the choice of the two options would just take the portable model, because it has all the same games AND is portable on top of that. 

Mind you 5 to 1, people choose the 3DS over getting a Wii U as is, the gaps for the GBA and GCN was similar, DS-Wii was closer but only because of a controller craze that's highly unlikely to ever happen again. 



DélioPT on 20 September 2016

In all fairness, that quote actually tells us nothing. In other words, you can read both ways.

I think that, one, people are reading to much from the home console part (due to rumors, i admit) and second, not seeing that changing the concept of handhelds was part of the phrase.

NX being an handheld with TV-Out functionality is not really changing concepts. Okay, probably for the home console - but in that case it would really mean the death of home consoles for Nintendo.
Personally, i think there's more to the rumors we have been hearing - as in, something is not being told. But i think that changing what the handheld is, is actually something equally important!
Could it be that Nintendo will make a "tablet first and handheld second" or the opposite of that.

Again, i think rumors are far from telling us the whole story (and they have gaps aswell!).



Frogger on 20 September 2016
Miyamotoo said:

NX is referred like platform that treats handheld and console as brothers only in January 2013, year after that Iwata said this:

 "Still, I am not sure if the form factor (the size and configuration of the hardware) will be integrated.

  Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment

Reggie literally called NX a platform like three months ago.

NX is a console or a platform?

Always a platform.

That was at E3. Don't make stuff up.



Around the Network
Jranation on 20 September 2016

I believe this more than any of those rumours.



Pocky Lover Boy! 

Soundwave on 20 September 2016
DélioPT said:
In all fairness, that quote actually tells us nothing. In other words, you can read both ways.

I think that, one, people are reading to much from the home console part (due to rumors, i admit) and not seeing that changing the concept of handhelds was part of the phrase.

NX being an handheld with TV-Out functionality is not really changing concepts. Okay, probably for the home console - but in that case it would really mean the death of home consoles for Nintendo.
Personally, i think there's more to the rumors we have been hearing - as in, something is not being told. But i think that changing what the handheld is, is actually something equally important!
Could it be that Nintendo will make a "tablet first and handheld second" or the opposite of that.

Again, i think rumors are far from telling us the whole story (and they have gaps aswell!).

A tablet is a handheld, it's just a bigger version of it. I mean you hold the tablet with your ... hands. 



Miyamotoo on 20 September 2016
spemanig said:
Miyamotoo said:

NX is referred like platform that treats handheld and console as brothers only in January 2013, year after that Iwata said this:

 "Still, I am not sure if the form factor (the size and configuration of the hardware) will be integrated.

  Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment"

Reggie literally called NX a platform like three months ago.

NX is a console or a platform?

Always a platform.

That was at E3. Don't make stuff up.

And hybrid cant be platform!? You realise that 3DS and Wii U are seperate platforms.

What exatly I make up!?



DélioPT on 20 September 2016
Soundwave said:
DélioPT said:
In all fairness, that quote actually tells us nothing. In other words, you can read both ways.

I think that, one, people are reading to much from the home console part (due to rumors, i admit) and not seeing that changing the concept of handhelds was part of the phrase.

NX being an handheld with TV-Out functionality is not really changing concepts. Okay, probably for the home console - but in that case it would really mean the death of home consoles for Nintendo.
Personally, i think there's more to the rumors we have been hearing - as in, something is not being told. But i think that changing what the handheld is, is actually something equally important!
Could it be that Nintendo will make a "tablet first and handheld second" or the opposite of that.

Again, i think rumors are far from telling us the whole story (and they have gaps aswell!).

A tablet is a handheld, it's just a bigger version of it. I mean you hold the tablet with your ... hands. 

I wasn't referring to it in that way.
There are things (apps, for example), that you'll never use on a handheld, but will - because it's just natural to it - on a tablet.



Soundwave on 20 September 2016
spemanig said:
Miyamotoo said:

NX is referred like platform that treats handheld and console as brothers only in January 2013, year after that Iwata said this:

 "Still, I am not sure if the form factor (the size and configuration of the hardware) will be integrated.

  Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment

Reggie literally called NX a platform like three months ago.

NX is a console or a platform?

Always a platform.

That was at E3. Don't make stuff up.

Takahashi (head of Nintendo EPD, one of the lead designers of NX) a few weeks ago:

“I can’t talk about this in detail yet, but we are aiming so that neither people who like games nor moms dislike it. I think that I want to release a game device that both customers who have much experience in gaming and customers who haven’t played much can enjoy greatly.”

Singular references there, not plural, not even "platform". 

This quote from the Pokemon guy also again in a singular tense. 

Metroid Prime series producer, Tanabe on a new Metroid game again refers to NX as a console, not platform, not consoles:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-17-next-proper-metroid-prime-would-likely-now-be-on-nx

""If we started for Wii U now, it would likely take three years or so. So it would likely now be on Nintendo's NX console," he said.

Reggie has also referred to NX as just a "console". 

That and quite frankly I don't think all of IGN, Peer Schneider (been covering Nintendo for 20 years, revealed the GameCube before anyone else), Eurogamer, Semi Accurate, LPVG, Wall Street Journal, Kotaku are all wrong either. 

There might be different models, but it'll be more like what the PSVita and VitaTV are in that case, not a hugely more powerful console, sorry guys that dream is dying.