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Um... exactly what did the guy say in the video that was incorrect? lol, he's not talking about power. And the PS4P is not a big upgrade or anything.



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okr said:
The Xbox One S certainly is a beauty.

And 3 times weaker than the Pro



Michelasso said:
Snoopy said:

There is a bigger difference between 1080p and 4k then 1080p and 900p first off. Second off 40% difference is different in this situation in terms of GPU. Imagine an ant that is 1 mm long and there is another ant that is 1.4 mm long. You can't tell the difference unless you get a magnifying glass and even then it isn't a big deal. Now if the ant is 1 yard long and the other is 1.4 yards long then you can tell the difference for sure. This is obviously a bit of an exageration, but shows as numbers get bigger than the difference between the two is not only bigger but more noticeable. 

yeah, but the difference will NOT be 1080p vs 4K. Simplifying 40% more power means 18% more pixels for each X and Y dimension. Indeed 900p*1.18 = 1062p, close to 1080p. Lets' say a game on PS4 Pro will have a 1440p frame bufffer with 6TFLOPS it could be just a 1700p frame buffer. Then sure, the Scorpio should improve other pieces of HW, but currently we know nothing about it. Still, the PS4 Pro has 3 times the power of any Xbone, so no, they are not and can not be compared.

Then, since we are talking about pixels, we are talking about something much smaller than an ant, so your arguments goes against what you pretended to say. Indeed higher the resolutions get and much harder it becomes to notice a difference. Just think SD vs 720p and compare it with 720p vs 1080p. The jump from SD seems much higher. Or even better get a 2x2 grid and compare it with a 3x3 grid. Night and day.

To me the difference between 4k/1440p and 1080p is much bigger than SD and HD when fully utilize. Also depends on tv size,distance from t.v.,ect. Even if we aren't talking about rez but just tflops,  2tflops will make a lot more difference in textures, lighting, ect then .5tf. Which was the point I was getting at. The person I was arguing was trying to say Scorpio and PS4 pro difference will be the same or similar to Xbox one and PS4 which isn't the case. As numbers get bigger even at the same percent the difference will always get larger.

900p / 1080p isn't no where close to 4k vs 1080p. Microsoft already stated the console will be 4k ready.



Swordmasterman said:
iNathan said:

You gotta see this to believe, i know IGN is a bunch of ignorants but still this is hilarious, this guy is such a clown it´s so funny. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3mDgR_0_YA Around 27.21. 

Xbox One S does not even compete with the PS4 Slim in resolution and graphics and this guy is saying it competes with the Pro, man IGN really needs to hire some true gamers and tech guys, being run by idiots like this just keeps killing their reputation as a reliable website. 

For  IGN, and for some people, Having a 4K Blu-ray Player is enough to compete against anything.

Imagine if you don't have internet, have a cap on your internet or stuck with slow and unreliable internet.  Then ask these people of they would of wanted a $K blu-ray player in the PS4 Pro.



Snoopy said:
Hynad said:

Seriously, whatever you say. I know full were where you're coming from, so I'll just let you believe whatever you want. 

The PS4 Neo and Scorpio isn't a matter of 1080p vs 4K to begin with.

So I'll stop arguing with you, since I know full well where you stand.

Yay I win woot woot.

See, that's the reason why you're not worth anyone's time. You don't want to discuss anything, you want to win, as childish as that is. There's simply no reason for anyone to argue with you, since you're overly biased and base most of your comments on FUD.



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Snoopy said:
Michelasso said:

yeah, but the difference will NOT be 1080p vs 4K. Simplifying 40% more power means 18% more pixels for each X and Y dimension. Indeed 900p*1.18 = 1062p, close to 1080p. Lets' say a game on PS4 Pro will have a 1440p frame bufffer with 6TFLOPS it could be just a 1700p frame buffer. Then sure, the Scorpio should improve other pieces of HW, but currently we know nothing about it. Still, the PS4 Pro has 3 times the power of any Xbone, so no, they are not and can not be compared.

Then, since we are talking about pixels, we are talking about something much smaller than an ant, so your arguments goes against what you pretended to say. Indeed higher the resolutions get and much harder it becomes to notice a difference. Just think SD vs 720p and compare it with 720p vs 1080p. The jump from SD seems much higher. Or even better get a 2x2 grid and compare it with a 3x3 grid. Night and day.

To me the difference between 4k/1440p and 1080p is much bigger than SD and HD when fully utilize. Also depends on tv size,distance from t.v.,ect. Even if we aren't talking about rez but just tflops,  2tflops will make a lot more difference in textures, lighting, ect then .5tf. Which was the point I was getting at. The person I was arguing was trying to say Scorpio and PS4 pro difference will be the same or similar to Xbox one and PS4 which isn't the case. As numbers get bigger even at the same percent the difference will always get larger.

900p / 1080p isn't no where close to 4k vs 1080p. Microsoft already stated the console will be 4k ready.

 

The difference between Ps4 pro and Scorpio is probably going to be 1080P upscale to 4k vs Native 4k. This won’t be as major as 1080P vs 4K! Beside, we don't even know if Scorpio is even powerful enough to run Native 4k. 



yvanjean said:
Snoopy said:

To me the difference between 4k/1440p and 1080p is much bigger than SD and HD when fully utilize. Also depends on tv size,distance from t.v.,ect. Even if we aren't talking about rez but just tflops,  2tflops will make a lot more difference in textures, lighting, ect then .5tf. Which was the point I was getting at. The person I was arguing was trying to say Scorpio and PS4 pro difference will be the same or similar to Xbox one and PS4 which isn't the case. As numbers get bigger even at the same percent the difference will always get larger.

900p / 1080p isn't no where close to 4k vs 1080p. Microsoft already stated the console will be 4k ready.

 

The difference between Ps4 pro and Scorpio is probably going to be 1080P upscale to 4k vs Native 4k. This won’t be as major as 1080P vs 4K! Beside, we don't even know if Scorpio is even powerful enough to run Native 4k. 

Microsoft already confirm that it will. So yeahh..



I wonder how powerful the Scorpio is going to be next year in people's minds, before the actual specs get revealed. I've already read up to 10tf, 12GB hbm ram, Zen CPU, 4tb sshd. Definitely not going to buy a slim now with that powerhouse coming out next year for 399 :) For example http://www.tweaktown.com/news/51972/new-xbox-5-times-more-powerful-ps4-neo-rocks-10-tflops/index.html



LudicrousSpeed said:
Um... exactly what did the guy say in the video that was incorrect? lol, he's not talking about power. And the PS4P is not a big upgrade or anything.

Digital Foundry says it is a significant difference visually.



yvanjean said:
Snoopy said:

To me the difference between 4k/1440p and 1080p is much bigger than SD and HD when fully utilize. Also depends on tv size,distance from t.v.,ect. Even if we aren't talking about rez but just tflops,  2tflops will make a lot more difference in textures, lighting, ect then .5tf. Which was the point I was getting at. The person I was arguing was trying to say Scorpio and PS4 pro difference will be the same or similar to Xbox one and PS4 which isn't the case. As numbers get bigger even at the same percent the difference will always get larger.

900p / 1080p isn't no where close to 4k vs 1080p. Microsoft already stated the console will be 4k ready.

 

The difference between Ps4 pro and Scorpio is probably going to be 1080P upscale to 4k vs Native 4k. This won’t be as major as 1080P vs 4K! Beside, we don't even know if Scorpio is even powerful enough to run Native 4k. 

Scorpio won't be able to do current gen games at 4k native.