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Trump or Hillary?

Trump FTW! 305 51.69%
 
Hillary all the way! 285 48.31%
 
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fory77 said:

This election is the best entertainment of the past year. I mean, fuck the Euro cup, fuck the Olympics and even Brexit- both sides and their arguments were actually kinda respectable, so there was a reasonable discussion (Would've been more fun if the Jo Cox plan worked).
If i could vote, i'd pick God-Emperor Trump (Praise be unto him) to win so that we can build that 1488 ft wall and have 4 years of Make America Great Again™.

 

WagnerPaiva said:

  I think Hillary will be America´s Dilma Roussed and, believe me, you guys do not want a Dilma Roussef.

Also, i apologize on behalf of my country for spawning that cunt's father

You better, LOL =) that woman was beyond evil



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WagnerPaiva said:
Ouroboros24 said:

As soon as you said "born again christian", made me want to reconsider my vote.  Otherwise, I am hoping Trump wins and is likely to happen.

I am happy that your care about the future of America is stronger than your hatred towards christianity =)

So basically if youre a Trump voter you care about America but if you vote Hiliary then you don't? 

I find that an alarming opinion to have. Take the the NFL player who is refusing to stand for the anthem, who Trumo said so go to a different country if he doesnt like America. Here Trump is showing his lack of statemen abilities. The NFL player (whos name I cant remember) is simply protesting something he disagrees with in order to draw attention to the issue because he wants said situation to change. This is the basis of any form of democratic protest. Trump lambasting him without explaining why he disagrees with him, and simply telling him to leave the country is just following blind patriotism. I can see why Trump appeals to people with this position but it doesnt add anything constructive, and shows his inability or lack of willingness to debate with people he disagrees with.

Take that onto the world stage, say with China. How do you think theyll react? In all likelihood, not well. This position would likely only serve to isolate America.

Bear in mind Im British, so by your original comment I guess I dont care about America (definetely not in the same way you do) so apologies for any bias. I have tried to stay objective.



SecondWar said:
WagnerPaiva said:

I am happy that your care about the future of America is stronger than your hatred towards christianity =)

So basically if youre a Trump voter you care about America but if you vote Hiliary then you don't? 

I find that an alarming opinion to have. Take the the NFL player who is refusing to stand for the anthem, who Trumo said so go to a different country if he doesnt like America. Here Trump is showing his lack of statemen abilities. The NFL player (whos name I cant remember) is simply protesting something he disagrees with in order to draw attention to the issue because he wants said situation to change. This is the basis of any form of democratic protest. Trump lambasting him without explaining why he disagrees with him, and simply telling him to leave the country is just following blind patriotism. I can see why Trump appeals to people with this position but it doesnt add anything constructive, and shows his inability or lack of willingness to debate with people he disagrees with.

Take that onto the world stage, say with China. How do you think theyll react? In all likelihood, not well. This position would likely only serve to isolate America.

Bear in mind in British, so by your original comment I guess I dont care about America (definetely not in the same way you do) so apologies for any bias. I have tried to stay objective.

Not at all. I know all of you care for America, you are just falling for the "racist/misogynist/sexist" propaganda from Hillary.

But, of course, all voters have good intentions, want a better country.

Anyways, we will know the end of this in two month, much earlier than the Nintendo NX =)



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WagnerPaiva said:
SecondWar said:

So basically if youre a Trump voter you care about America but if you vote Hiliary then you don't? 

I find that an alarming opinion to have. Take the the NFL player who is refusing to stand for the anthem, who Trumo said so go to a different country if he doesnt like America. Here Trump is showing his lack of statemen abilities. The NFL player (whos name I cant remember) is simply protesting something he disagrees with in order to draw attention to the issue because he wants said situation to change. This is the basis of any form of democratic protest. Trump lambasting him without explaining why he disagrees with him, and simply telling him to leave the country is just following blind patriotism. I can see why Trump appeals to people with this position but it doesnt add anything constructive, and shows his inability or lack of willingness to debate with people he disagrees with.

Take that onto the world stage, say with China. How do you think theyll react? In all likelihood, not well. This position would likely only serve to isolate America.

Bear in mind in British, so by your original comment I guess I dont care about America (definetely not in the same way you do) so apologies for any bias. I have tried to stay objective.

Not at all. I know all of you care for America, you are just falling for the "racist/misogynist/sexist" propaganda from Hillary.

But, of course, all voters have good intentions, want a better country.

Anyways, we will know the end of this in two month, much earlier than the Nintendo NX =)

Ill be honest, I did not expect that response.

But i want to question that the idea of Trump being accused of racisim being Hiliary propaganda. Im afraid the idea Trump is racist is coming from the man himself.

Take a few comments from a couple of months back, when Trump said he would temporarily ban all muslims entering the US and when he branded all mexican immigrants rapist and drug dealers.

Lumping an entire group under one banner is the definition of racisim. Yes, some Muslims are terrorists. That does not mean they all are. Banning all muslims from entering the country because of the actions of some is a racist policy as it judges by religion rather than self merit.



SecondWar said:
WagnerPaiva said:

Not at all. I know all of you care for America, you are just falling for the "racist/misogynist/sexist" propaganda from Hillary.

But, of course, all voters have good intentions, want a better country.

Anyways, we will know the end of this in two month, much earlier than the Nintendo NX =)

Ill be honest, I did not expect that response.

But i want to question that the idea of Trump being accused of racisim being Hiliary propaganda. Im afraid the idea Trump is racist is coming from the man himself.

Take a few comments from a couple of months back, when Trump said he would temporarily ban all muslims entering the US and when he branded all mexican immigrants rapist and drug dealers.

Lumping an entire group under one banner is the definition of racisim. Yes, some Muslims are terrorists. That does not mean they all are. Banning all muslims from entering the country because of the actions of some is a racist policy as it judges by religion rather than self merit.

I will answer that with a phrase from the left favorite philosopher, the linguist Noam Chomsky: "The stablished powers create and give boosts to crazy conspiracies theories to ocupy people´s mind so they do not realize that there are real conspiracies going on".

It is true that the refugee crisis in Europe gave place to tons of terrorists and criminals to enter France and Germany, among others. And yes, any country should be concerned about that.

So, even if it sounds bad, it is a legitimate concern, and I remember a time when America was not afraid to voice their concerns just because SJWs would think it is not nice.

About the imigrants taking americans jobs, I agree, brazilians should stay here in Brazil and help us to build a better Brazil.

And americans should never ever need to rely on food stamps to survive. You guys should never have to be unemployed so a brazilian can send big bucks to here.

And, let me tell you man, there is plenty of oportunity to hard working people here in Brazil.

I know, there are war zones, and people do need help. But let´s be honest, things are not as pretty and simple as the SJWs paint. There is a lot of manipulation of felling going on with the refugee crisis. And this is a issue among thousands.

That said, I have faith in the american people, if Hillary or Trump tries to do something way too wicked, specially for you guys, I have faith you will uprise and dethrone the bastard.

It is just my opinion that you guys will be better off with Trump, and as I watch the desesperation of the democrats in CNN, it seems to me that he is winning.



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So your country is doomed. Please don't spew your acid into Asia and the middle east. Keep it to yourself. We don't need more daesh or Taliban etc groups forming and terrorizing the world and then Muslims getting blamed for it. I blame America for those assholes and now if trump wins, the world will blame america for a lot of assholes and a lot of assholery.



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All the facts are against you, Trump basically has a very little chance of winning but good luck with those ol' so family values of hate. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo



Wow the misinformation is truly incredible.. Can we say factcheck.org or we don't believe in fact checking. of coarse not.



WagnerPaiva said:
Normchacho said:

Uuuhhh....What?

1. Nope. It's an interesting balancing point politicaly for the US. Since we need to keep them happy (and safe) because of their strategic location and generally western beliefs, and having to stay freindly with the Islamic nations of the region (especially the Saudis) for their economic importance. But certainly not the most importnat place in the world.

2. What he did to Iran? You mean defuse an increasingly hostile situation with a very dangerous and potentially nuclear regime by joining up with half a dozen or so other nations to ease up on economic sanctions?

The deal is a disaster, it empowered Iran in the long run, putting all of us in risk

No it doesn't. Stop with your lies. Iran since its ascension has not been in a war except for Iraq which you US caused in the first place. And Iran is not as dangerous as you imply. There are no terrorist regimes in Iran and the country keeps to itself except for the shia sunni conflict which does not involve you anyway. It only involves Muslims. Also when president wants to go to war everyone including congress is all for it but when president wants peaceful negotiations everyone including congress is all against it. For example USA has been a part of almost every war in the 20th and 21st century but not part of most peaceful negotiations. What does that tell you about the US?



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Mr Puggsly said:
I would be very happy if Trump won, but the masses seem to be drinking the kool-aid of left wing pinkos.

So I'm losing faith in this country and I fully anticipate Hilary will be our president. Never have we seen so much support for a corrupt politician, its genuinely depressing.

Really you call us pinko's yet Trump loves Communist putin. hahahahahahah. Dude you have it backwards.