4ThePlayers

Welcome to the future of play

Remember the big slogans for the PS4? They show that you're wrong. Sony has been focusing on gamers and games since the beginning with the PS4.

As for PSVue, you realise that it's not a PS4-specific product, right? It's their alternative to cable. Get a grip, dude.

If the X box didn't have the capability I doubt we would hear much about it, it's more they got it why haven't you situation, I tend to think that Sony may have struck some content deals with streaming services that made it worth their while not to go down that path.

They probably see it being like the noise on BC, a lot of fuss but not a lot of market place movement in regards to extra sales.

1X speed is 36Mbps, 4K 100GB triple layer discs require 128 Mbps to be able to be read for the 4K UHD standard. 6X = 216 Mbps. The drive is fast enough for current UHD standards. The limiting factor is whether or not the beam is narrow enough to read the 33GB layer and is capapble of reading all 3 layers.

Yesh, I'm exoecting to see XB1s consoles flying off the shelves and winning every month for the rest of the yea.... I mesn for the rest of the gen because what everyone really needed was a 4k BR player. Where's that trusty chalkboard again? 

Yeah, but you are kinda looking at it funny....

The simole problem is that the drive in the PS4 onky being able to resd two layers doesny meet the 4k BR specification. Thsts a big deal bevauee it woulf mesn that its not gauranteed that all discs will work on it. 

With BR discs, the whole point of the layers is to increase capacity. The more the layers the higher the capacity. 

It's a CAV drive, constant angular velocity. The data on the outer circle comes in at 216mbps, inner circle is read at only 90 mbps.
Even with the best possible scenario for the higher density, 33GB layers instead of 25GB, ie assume it will have the same number of grooves with only the dots closer together, that would still only raise the data transfer speed to 118 mbps on the inner circle.

It's simply too close, ps3 blu-ray had a 2x CLV drive, 72 mbps from inner to outer circle to be comfortably ahead of the 54mbps speed needed. Plus the drive in the XBox One S is almost twice as expensive, probably because it's faster and can read the smaller grooves.

Its actually fast enough..the optical drives is BDxL can read multiple layers over 2. The playback for BD is not for BD-UHD playback, Sony even has sever patents in the BD-XL format which is actually BD-UHD optical drives.

And as I shown above the HDMi controller chip on the Mobo has an actual 4K video and pictures Upscaler in the HDMi  controller chip..that Panasonic on board HDMi controller was pretty impressive what it had built in from the get go.

See my post above yours, it's not fast enough. Unless you have some information that it can actually spin faster for BD-UHD playback? Any source?

 Before jeff was banned on gaf he pointed out and rightly so:

"a version 2 disk can already be read by BDXL drives and BD-ROM drives only require a firmware update as mentioned in 2010 by Sony-Panasonic. BD-ROM drives did not need to read 33GB/layer as there were no commercial BD-ROM disks being made with 33GB/layer till UHD."

Jeff was also correct about every PS4 being.

 HDR-10 Compliant HDMi controller. Way back before many even thought it was just a 1.4 controller only. I tend to with research of my own confirm what Jeff had stated to be pretty spot on.

I mean on GAF this was stated:

[Jeff hasn't been wrong about absolutely everything (HDR support, most notably, although it's a little too early to point to it as evidence that all PS4s have HDMI 2.0 chips), but from where I'm standing, the PS4 receiving 4K output support is about as likely as it receiving UHD BD support.]

But yet it's been proven Jeff was exactly correct in his assessment...

Turns out Sony's dedicated UHD blu-ray player is going to cost consumers in the 4-digit range and marketed as a premium/custom set up UHD blu-ray player. IF the Pro was UHD blu-ray capable, I don't see how it would cannibalize sales of a very high-end UHD blu ray player marketed towards serious enthusiasts...