I don't think it's something that can be unlocked via software update. The laser reader for 4k BD works in a different way, there's a hardware barrier.
The problem is that the exact specifications for the BD-Drive has not been released. We don't yet have a part number.
This article is outright wrong many aspects. The worst is assuming that any BD-Drive is capable of reading a UHD disc, this is incorrect. It takes a pairing of the correct firmware and laser to be able to read more than the standard 2-layers. This is why you can buy a BD-XL Drive and a standard BD drive for a PC.
Now if the PS4 Pro does have a BD-XL capable Drive then all that it would require is for Sony to pay for licensing for HDCP 2.2 and the DolbyDTX audio codecs and to enable the feature via firmware/driver update. It may already be planned to be enabled in a future firmware update, or even a release day update for all we know.
We don't know if it is capable until we get a Part number for the drive or the system its self is released so that someone can find out themselves.
drkohler said:
Yes it is a standard disc format. A DISC standard. The blu-ray drive must have the correct lens system (high numerical aperture lenses) to actually be able to read uhd disks. The PS4 seemingly does NOT have uhd blu-ray drive mechanics. The hardware simply isn't there, end of story. |
Ofcourse, you are right when it comes to laser system for the reading. But there has been no official numbers even from BDA on how much different it'll be from standard disc system for the reading. Also the BD drive details are not clearly specified by Sony either for the PRO. One cannot assume without official specifications that the drive inbuilt is simply not housing all the hardware capable to play UHD.
| DialgaMarine2 said: I honestly just don't care. I wish people would accept it as an annoyance and just move on. You don't want a gaming console because it can't play a dying movie format? Fine, then don't buy one. It's not for you. Honestly, I think the majority of the people complaining are simply those people that will simply never be happy with anything that doesn't have a particular brand name on it, and would never buy the Pro anyway. If it never gets UHD Blu-Ray support, then I. Don't. Care. I'm still buying one Day 1 |
Same here... Still getti it day one. The reasons i want and always wanted a PS4pro never once had anything to do with IHD Movies. I am really shocked how "important"movie playback has become all of a sudden. I've heard more mention of movies in the past week than I have in the past 6yrs. And then the things that actually improve gaming like HDR for all across PS4 and PS4pro and improved gaming performance for PS4pro owners gaming on 1080p TVs just don't get mentioned.
Being able to watch movies is officially more important than playing games on a gaming console. Go figure lol.
| Raistline said: The problem is that the exact specifications for the BD-Drive has not been released. We don't yet have a part number. This article is outright wrong many aspects. The worst is assuming that any BD-Drive is capable of reading a UHD disc, this is incorrect. It takes a pairing of the correct firmware and laser to be able to read more than the standard 2-layers. This is why you can buy a BD-XL Drive and a standard BD drive for a PC. Now if the PS4 Pro does have a BD-XL capable Drive then all that it would require is for Sony to pay for licensing for HDCP 2.2 and the DolbyDTX audio codecs and to enable the feature via firmware/driver update. It may already be planned to be enabled in a future firmware update, or even a release day update for all we know. We don't know if it is capable until we get a Part number for the drive or the system its self is released so that someone can find out themselves. |
It need not be a BD-XL drive to read more layers. Here comes a noteworthy point of disc replication issues and the handful owners of it, one being Sony. BD-50 will continue to roll out as first generation UHD-BDs. You are just mixing up drives designed for PC here, which unfortunately is not the case and there's a lot more to it if you follow CES dicussions with BDA amd other official UHD-BD spec documentation.
Coming back to our point, It is more about Hdcp 2.2 licensing for the hdmi out along with the audio codecs and the corresponding firmware that can enable a non BD-XL drive, if need be to read triple layer discs. Only time can tell if BD-XL is going to be the definitive standard.
"The worst is assuming that any BD-Drive is capable of reading a UHD disc, this is incorrect." Read the article again
Intrinsic said:
Same here... Still getti it day one. The reasons i want and always wanted a PS4pro never once had anything to do with IHD Movies. I am really shocked how "important"movie playback has become all of a sudden. I've heard more mention of movies in the past week than I have in the past 6yrs. And then the things that actually improve gaming like HDR for all across PS4 and PS4pro and improved gaming performance for PS4pro owners gaming on 1080p TVs just don't get mentioned. Being able to watch movies is officially more important than playing games on a gaming console. Go figure lol. |
This article is more or less an ideal response to those who have used the only omission in Ps4 as the major criticism to downplay.
gotta be honest here.
THe 4k bluray player thing was the only reason for me to do the upgrade. What a let down ):
GameAnalyser said:
This article is more or less an ideal response to those who have used the only omission in Ps4 as the major criticism to downplay. |
Yet most every article stated that the $400 price point of the Pro was an excellent value for everything it had to offer.
| padib said: This flood of articles defending what, in my humble opinion, is a flagrant mistake by Sony, are starting to get revolting. It's as if people were not able to blatantly admit: "This was an obvious mistake" as if somehow Sony was above making mistakes. Then, when companies like Nintendo make a mistake that is often very debatable, everyone is jumping on the company. The bias is really stupid. The issue with the article is here:
The problem with this decision is that Sony and MS are now not only competing for who will win over gamers. They are competing even more over who will control the living room. And MS is being very aggressive about this. To say that Sony made a decision based on its best interest so as to avoid cannibalizing its UHD players completely ignores this very important fact that it IS competing with MS, and therefore must cannibalize to ensure its competitor doesn't get an edge! That's what they did so right with the PS4 original, they didn't miss any feature, it was the console that got everything right and beat MS in almost every capability. Now with the Scorpio and the PS4Pro, that is changing. If the PS4Pro is capable of playing UHD blu-rays like this article assumes, then it was a serious mistake to restrict it from consumers, much like it was Nintendo's mistake to lock the Wii out of an HDMI output even though it was capable of HD graphics. |
"then it was a serious mistake to restrict it from consumers," There is no restriction. It's about Sony's decision in going forward with the streaming options while they can be improved over time with better codecs and video quality. They are ideally not interested in supporting the production/replication of specific format for the aforementioned video playback to masses which in itself is bound to restrictions. Sony wants to deem them unnecessary.
| Intrinsic said: I'm not buying this story. 1. Sony has significantly more to gain by selling PS4pro's that will act as a gateway to game purchases, PS+, PSVue....etc than just selling a stand alone Movie player. 2. The laser in the PS4 is only capable of reading 2 layer BR discs. The ones found in UHD BR drives are capable of reading at least 4+ layers. I really don't see Sony putting in the hardware then disabling it. I've probably mentioned this already; I would sooner believe (and even expect) that Sony can or will just sell a standalone UHD BR external drive that plus into and draws power from the PS4/PS4pro USB slot. The could sell that peripheral for $99. This puts them in a place where whoever wants it can just pick one up for themselves. |
"The laser in the PS4 is only capable of reading 2 layer BR discs. The ones found in UHD BR drives are capable of reading at least 4+ layers. I really don't see Sony putting in the hardware then disabling it. " So what about PS4Pro? Were you implying the same or standard?
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