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Captain_Yuri said:
Lrdfancypants said:

But it doesn't have a 4 k movie drive so you're buying a console that does include it and saving $300 or so dollars

Or they could have included it and I wouldn't be buying another console and losing $300 or so dollars.

They could've included many things but it has what it has.  Now you can look at the market and features offered and make a choice that fits your needs.



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Others may be at different places now, but, I have personaly not bought or rented ANY physical media since around 2007/8.. my guess is the support for them is not as relevant as it was before.

I'm in Canada, here is what I noticed: 

Xbox One S 500$ (1TB drive)

PS4 Pro will be 500$ 

Now you make your choice, get the physical 4K disk player or the more powerful console for the same price, from my point of view the choice is brain dead simple (i.e.: PS4 Neo is a better deal), when itès released.

N the S seems to have some kind of aura against it, many people seems to think this IS the Scorpio, that it is more powerful than the PS4 or its pro variant... I think MSs vague marketing is built around taking advantage of this confusion (remember how they let the secret sauce and cloud insinuation fly to keep people in doubt about how weak the xb1 is).

 Anyway, I brought up the price comparison to show that not including the reader saved a few $ and made the machine more affordable in the end, this is great, Sony did not let the media drive up the price of their console again (for no valid reason this time).

As for the actual Scrpio, I would wait to know how much it will cost compared to the PS4 PRO AT THE TIME OF ITS LAUNCH, I could imagine a 350$ PS4 PRO going against a 500, 550$ Scorpio... or a Scorprio going against a PS4 Pro Expert announcement, or "leak" one year or so before its actual release.



Lrdfancypants said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Or they could have included it and I wouldn't be buying another console and losing $300 or so dollars.

They could've included many things but it has what it has.  Now you can look at the market and features offered and make a choice that fits your needs.

Considering Sony's history, it would be reasonable to think they would include it more so than other things.

And now, I have to go out there and buy more nonsense cause a console that should have been able to do something based on its history of being the best multi-media console isn't able to do it. I will go out there and buy an X1 but I am not "saving" money by doing so. I am spending it which is quite the opposite of saving.



                  

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Why settle for less? If there competition can do it and sell it for a reasonable price than this is clearly them not caring and riding the wave of success. I can see them offering a PS4 Pro X next year which will include one at no extra cost. Its all a marketing strategy. If your happy to Stream and download movies and don't care about buying physical media than its perfect for you. However many out there still buy Disks. I myself collect games via digital however my movie library has always been physical.



Azzanation said:
Why settle for less? If there competition can do it and sell it for a reasonable price than this is clearly them not caring and riding the wave of success. I can see them offering a PS4 Pro X next year which will include one at no extra cost. Its all a marketing strategy. If your happy to Stream and download movies and don't care about buying physical media than its perfect for you. However many out there still buy Disks. I myself collect games via digital however my movie library has always been physical.

That's why they have PS4's and not XB1's.



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Captain_Yuri said:
Lrdfancypants said:

They could've included many things but it has what it has.  Now you can look at the market and features offered and make a choice that fits your needs.

Considering Sony's history, it would be reasonable to think they would include it more so than other things.

And now, I have to go out there and buy more nonsense cause a console that should have been able to do something based on its history of being the best multi-media console isn't able to do it. I will go out there and buy an X1 but I am not "saving" money by doing so. I am spending it which is quite the opposite of saving.

But it doesn't really matter now what anybody thought it might have based on history.  It doesn't have it.  Luckily for you there are choices in the marketplace.



l <---- Do you mean this glitch Gribble?  If not, I'll keep looking.  

 

 

 

 

I am on the other side of my sig....am I warm or cold?  

Marco....

Azzanation said:
Why settle for less? If there competition can do it and sell it for a reasonable price than this is clearly them not caring and riding the wave of success. I can see them offering a PS4 Pro X next year which will include one at no extra cost. Its all a marketing strategy. If your happy to Stream and download movies and don't care about buying physical media than its perfect for you. However many out there still buy Disks. I myself collect games via digital however my movie library has always been physical.

The marketplace has an offering for people in your position.  The ps4pro does not offer a 4k player.



l <---- Do you mean this glitch Gribble?  If not, I'll keep looking.  

 

 

 

 

I am on the other side of my sig....am I warm or cold?  

Marco....

alabtrosMyster said:

Others may be at different places now, but, I have personaly not bought or rented ANY physical media since around 2007/8.. my guess is the support for them is not as relevant as it was before.

I'm in Canada, here is what I noticed: 

Xbox One S 500$ (1TB drive)

PS4 Pro will be 500$ 

Now you make your choice, get the physical 4K disk player or the more powerful console for the same price, from my point of view the choice is brain dead simple (i.e.: PS4 Neo is a better deal), when itès released.

N the S seems to have some kind of aura against it, many people seems to think this IS the Scorpio, that it is more powerful than the PS4 or its pro variant... I think MSs vague marketing is built around taking advantage of this confusion (remember how they let the secret sauce and cloud insinuation fly to keep people in doubt about how weak the xb1 is).

 Anyway, I brought up the price comparison to show that not including the reader saved a few $ and made the machine more affordable in the end, this is great, Sony did not let the media drive up the price of their console again (for no valid reason this time).

As for the actual Scrpio, I would wait to know how much it will cost compared to the PS4 PRO AT THE TIME OF ITS LAUNCH, I could imagine a 350$ PS4 PRO going against a 500, 550$ Scorpio... or a Scorprio going against a PS4 Pro Expert announcement, or "leak" one year or so before its actual release.

God I feel like I am going to lose my Sony membership card after today

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/xbox-xbox-one-s-1tb-halo-collection-bundle-234-00050/10458786.aspx?path=2112fe064664ae8cda4e1a731cdcced0en02

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01LR207T8?ref=spks_0_0_2607879182&qid=1473474464&pf_rd_p=2607879182&pf_rd_m=A2EUQ1WTGCTBG2&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_s=desktop-auto-sparkle&pf_rd_r=36E4EZCWRHK1RKM1ZPC7&pf_rd_i=Playstation+4+Pro

I agree with the rest though. Except for the price of the Scorpio. PS4Pro is the better value.



                  

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Lrdfancypants said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Considering Sony's history, it would be reasonable to think they would include it more so than other things.

And now, I have to go out there and buy more nonsense cause a console that should have been able to do something based on its history of being the best multi-media console isn't able to do it. I will go out there and buy an X1 but I am not "saving" money by doing so. I am spending it which is quite the opposite of saving.

But it doesn't really matter now what anybody thought it might have based on history.  It doesn't have it.  Luckily for you there are choices in the marketplace.

It does matter cause now, people like me will complain and maybe next time around, they won't make such stupid decisions.



                  

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Azuren said:
Azzanation said:
Why settle for less? If there competition can do it and sell it for a reasonable price than this is clearly them not caring and riding the wave of success. I can see them offering a PS4 Pro X next year which will include one at no extra cost. Its all a marketing strategy. If your happy to Stream and download movies and don't care about buying physical media than its perfect for you. However many out there still buy Disks. I myself collect games via digital however my movie library has always been physical.

That's why they have PS4's and not XB1's.

Sounds like you have submitted to settling for less because not having a UHD player means you have to fork out another $200-$300+ if you wanted to watch UHD disks. Plus you have already settled for less with its online network which is what they want you to use to watch 4k UHDs. Ill wait for the next addition of the Pro that includes one. Thats just me.