corporations are people.

I'd imagine those buying a PS4pro would have 4K TVs, no?

It personally doesn't affect me, as I have no 4K TV for either 4K Blurays or the PS4pro, so I will be getting neither. But it is strange to see that Playstation is suddenly "only about the games" despite championing various entertainment media formats throughout their generations.

I don't believe the cost increase to be anywhere near what is implied, but more improtantly that a price increase would even matter. The PS4pro is to be the premium PS4, for hardcore fans and those who have invested in 4K TVs.It is essentially a tech demo for 4K, and the small, niche userbase are not shy when it comes to spending for the experience.

There also seems to be a disconnect in the argument that 4K Blurays aren't worth it when the previous format is good enough, yet this is the exact premise for the existence of the PS4pro.

Again, I'm not buying a PS4pro either way. I just find it an illogical omission given the company's history and the intent of the device.

I was just generalizing not to be specific. With people, I meant the members of this forums.

 Blu-Ray wasn't the only factor in the PS3's price point, the cell had an equal if not greatershare in the cost.

I don't have a 4K TV and I'm buying a Pro. And Sony publicly stated that they recognize the growth and demand of streaming is why they excluded 4K Blu Ray playback while emphasizing gameplay on a 4k Set. Whether you believe them or not, what they say is reasonable. That was their expressed intent.

Actually both the Nvidia "Reality Synthesizer" GPU and Blu-Ray drive cost considerably more than the Cell CPU according to this tear-down report of the launch model PS3's from November 2006...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20061117130000.html

$125 for an optical drive is astronomical considering the 360's DVD drive cost only a fraction of that. If the PS3 had launched at say $399 for the standard model it might have been a much different story last gen.

Or they're interested (like me) in getting the best out of psvr.
Or they're interested in getting more out of 1080p (better assets, more stability, supersampling)
Or they figure why not get the pro model just in case they'll get a 4K tv later.

I think Sony wants to bundle the pro with psvr at some point, hence the cost saving to come to a not outrageous bundle price in a year or so. 4K UHD player wouldn't add much, but it certainly doesn't make sense in combination with psvr.

Anyway even if I wasn't interested in psvr or 4K tvs I would still get the better model (if I didn't have a ps4 already). Otherwise I would be getting a One S right now instead of hesitating and waiting for the Scorpio. PS4 pro can wait too, show me what psvr can do first. VR gaming for the masses is at the door step, yet all the narrative is about 4K and a movie player. Exclusion of an extra front hdmi port for psvr, removing the need for the extra box, is much more of an issue.

So here's my thing. I am going to 110% buy a PSPro instead of a Scorpio. Why? Cause Playstation has games that PC or Xbox does not have and the Pro version will give me the best experience on those games.

But with that being said, I am also going to buy a Xbox one slim. Now never in the past 2 console generations have I ever considered getting a xbox console. Why? Because Sony always gave me my gaming and multimedia needs. What has my ps3 been doing since the last time I touched it? Playing Blurays/Netflix/etc on my old arse TV (RIP).  So I never once had to even think about xbox for anything.

So now, we have the PS4Pro, the only console in Sony's entire history that isn't the ultimate gaming and multi-media console. It is the best console for those of us that love PS exclusives like me but the Xbox Slim has multi-media in the bag. So for once in the last 3 (including current one) console generations, I have to think about getting the Xbox Slim for the UHD TV.

As for streaming, the issue is that the ISPs just aren't there yet. According to netflix, in order to stream 4k movies, we need a steady 25mbps connection. A couple of months ago, my connection was 30mbps and I am paying $70 per month just for the internet. It is more with Phone and TV. And the datacap was 300gb per month. Streaming 4k would be 20GB/hour. So if a TV show is about lets say an hour, per month, I will be able to watch 15-16 episodes at 4k. Maybe 20 if we really push it? And that is without any Vgchartz, any online gaming and anything along those lines.

So to me, 4k Streaming is craycray. We are headed that way but it will take at least another 4-5 years before ISPs would quit being such bitches and let us have our streaming. Hence why I would have preferred a UHD Bluray player with the Pro than Streaming everything.