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Yes. 60 17.80%
 
No. 236 70.03%
 
Not sure. 16 4.75%
 
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Zkuq on 09 September 2016

No. Pushing the PS4 is the best they can do right now, and it's working wonderfully for them.



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ICStats on 09 September 2016

No, I don't think they will release PS5 so soon. PS4 business is doing great, so no reason to do so.

Who knows why Scorpio was announced so soon. Maybe to confuse the market, but they confuse their own even more than the competition. I think it's totally dumb to have announced Scorpio this year, cannibalize current sales and also tip your hand to competitors.



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ICStats on 09 September 2016
Barkley said:
Slimebeast said:
I believe more and more that the PS5 will be a proper console generation and not compatible with neither the PS4 or PS4 Pro.

I am certain of this also. I wasn't sure before the Pro Reveal but now I am.

What makes you say that?



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Jranation on 09 September 2016

PSVR is Sony's other advantage here.



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Dyllyo on 09 September 2016

Why would they need to?



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fatslob-:O on 09 September 2016
Final-Fan said:

1.  I never said it was a requirement.  I said that presidential candidates have done it routinely for decades to demonstrate to the voting public that they have nothing to hide as far as their personal financial situation goes, and the natural inference to draw from Trump's refusal to do so is that he does have something to hide in that regard.  Not necessarily something illegal, but perhaps it would show that he has been lying about something that he has been claiming in the campaign about his business acumen. 

I sympathize with the viewpoint of "don't do something purely because it's tradition", but there is actually a reason why the public should want to know as much as reasonably possible about prospective Presidents.  Do you disagree? 

2.  "The constitution" is a pretty bad answer.  If the existence of the constitution guaranteed that a president would do a good job and not abuse the powers of the office, Nixon would be remembered as one of our better presidents.  For that matter, why are you worried about Hillary Clinton if all you need to do to prevent abuse of power is to remind her that the constitution exists? 

I will ask you again, if Trump's promises are worthless except in the context of a binding legal document, what binding legal document exists to assure us that Trump has any intention whatsoever of doing any of the things he has promised you he would do?  Maybe he'd be happy to let ISIS through immigration for $10,000 per terrorist, cash only.  As long as he could find a constitutional way to do it.  He doesn't want to build a wall, and if he did he wouldn't make Mexico pay for it.  He'd make New Mexico pay for it, and tell us he didn't specify "which Mexico" he was talking about. 

No, Sony should not do anything stupid like releasing the PS5 so early ... 

We haven't gotten very far yet in advancing lithography technology so there won't by much cost savings to be had in producing more powerful chips ...

Preferably, I'd like them to keep going strong until at least 2020 in time for 7nm transistors so they could put out true next gen hardware with performance of at least 20 TFLOPs so we could get our raytraced games ...



ktay95 on 09 September 2016

They may have to if Scorpio gets off to a decent start. The last thing they need is to launch late and give Scorpio a massive lead.
If MS really is doing away with conventional generations then the Scorpio could start out receiving XBO games before MS phase out XBO support and start making games exclusively for Scorpio. This would leave Scorpio as their competitor to PS5 with a 2 year sales head start. Regardless of how powerful the PS5 is games will come to the Scorpio because of its already large install base. Sony could be playing catch up for a whole generation again.



Normchacho on 10 September 2016
mutantsushi said:
Normchacho said:

"Forward compatibility" is what seperates the Scorpio from being a full next-gen machine. Any game that they make for that 6 TFLOP system is also going to have to run on a 1.3 TFLOP system.

So now MS is in a situation where they have a piece of hardware that's less than 18 months old that can't offer visuals anywhere near the PS5 becuase they promised forward compatibility with a 1.3 TFLOP system.

They haven't promised that, that is what Sony is promising with PS4 Pro.
MS is saying that STARTING WITH Scorpio there will be no more gens, no more compatability breaks.
That means that Scorpio 2 will be fully compatable with Scorpio, but doesn't mean Scorpio is fully compatable with XBone.
Which makes sense because they are changing memory models between Xbone and Scorpio,
which requires very different code optimization to core functions, not just "settings tweaks" to FX quality, lighting, etc.
Interestingly, Scorpio memory model is similar to PS4, so x-platform game optimization will be much easier going forward.

There was litteraly a link to them saying there won't be Scorpio games that aren't on the Xbox One other than VR games in my post you quoted.

"We said we're not going to have console-exclusive games for Project Scorpio. It's one ecosystem--whether you have an Xbox One S or Project Scorpio, we don't want anyone to be left behind, Now, with the power and capabilities we have, we'll be able to do high-fidelity VR. Now, that space, we don't think of that as console gaming, we think of that as high-fidelity VR, and so with the VR experiences those will be new things that you will get on Project Scorpio."



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Ruler on 10 September 2016

maybe they could make another console but only if it also is powerful enough to play every PS3 game nativelay, they could throw PS2, PS1 and PSTV emulation as well into it. I think people would mind if they did so



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fatslob-:O on 10 September 2016
ktay95 said:
They may have to if Scorpio gets off to a decent start. The last thing they need is to launch late and give Scorpio a massive lead.
If MS really is doing away with conventional generations then the Scorpio could start out receiving XBO games before MS phase out XBO support and start making games exclusively for Scorpio. This would leave Scorpio as their competitor to PS5 with a 2 year sales head start. Regardless of how powerful the PS5 is games will come to the Scorpio because of its already large install base. Sony could be playing catch up for a whole generation again.

That sounds like a horrible idea to phase out software support too slowly. Content is arguably a stronger selling point for new systems rather than an enhanced technical experience. If Microsoft takes too long to release exclusive games for Scoprio then their efforts won't mean anything since that strategy is bound to fail in terms of mass market adoption which means that Scorpio could end up being a failure despite getting a head start if it even is one ... 

So not only is a large install base not guranteed with that strategy but PS5 could be an entirely different ballpark altogether in terms of power potentially making Scorpio redundant when trying to get down ports from the PS5 at which point Microsoft would have to be the one to reach parity in that case and not their competitor who tries to take full advantage of new hardware ...