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KLXVER said:
Vodacixi said:

That's not entirely true. Sure, they have an strong affinity to side scrolling games. But we have never experienced a situation as bad as this one. Last gen we had not one but two big 3D Mario titles. Last gen we had not one but two  home console Zelda games (kinda). Last gen we had not one but three new Metroid titles + the Prime Collection. Last gen we had not one but two brand new handheld Zelda games.  Last gen we experienced the creation of new IPs such as Xenoblade Chronicles, Pandora's Tower, The Last Story, Hotel Dusk... IPs that don't sell that well but still, they invest money and efforts on them. Last gen we got old franchises like Golden Sun, Donkey Kong Country, Punch Out or Sin and Punishment revived.

I'm not asking Nintendo for Skyrim or GTA games. I'm asking Nintendo to do their best as they did in the past instead off making zero efforts like they are doind now.

Its because the WiiU sold like shit. If the NX does well, then we probably will get multiple games in certain franchises and Nintendo might take more chances. Thats just the sad truth of it.

But the 3DS did not sold as shit and it will die with not even half the quantity and quality the NDS catalogue had.



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Vodacixi said:
KLXVER said:

Its because the WiiU sold like shit. If the NX does well, then we probably will get multiple games in certain franchises and Nintendo might take more chances. Thats just the sad truth of it.

But the 3DS did not sold as shit and it will die with not even half the quantity and quality the NDS catalogue had.

Thats because the DS had better third party support. Many of Nintendos own titles on the 3DS are great.



kitler53 said:
nintendo is obsessed with maintaining a low budget and their games and hardware. i don't think that will change with NX.

Unfortunately probably true. Games cost more develop these days, but the equalizer could be that if NX is a unified platform, that means all Nintendo fans are in one place instead of 80% not owning the console. 

Look at the business metrics for making a "big budget" game like Xenoblade or Zelda ... 80% of Nintendo's own fans didn't buy a Wii U.

So at least maaaaaybe if NX is a success they can finally have their portable fan base (which is the bigger one by far) but have them be able to play all their "big" games. 

That's also probably a big reason why Nintendo is going hybrid, I imagine their business department was not happy with many of their bigger/most expensive games being locked off from the majority of their audience. It's kind of an insanely stupid business model if you really think about it. Imagine Disney spending $200 million dollars on a Star Wars movie that could only be shown in ... Asia for whatever reason. 

Nintendo pays more to develop console games, only to sell it to 1/4 the audience. That's basically been the ratio of 3DS to Wii U and GBA to GameCube, Wii closed the gap, but even with the other of all controller crazes, the DS still outsold the Wii by a significant margin. 



KLXVER said:
Vodacixi said:

But the 3DS did not sold as shit and it will die with not even half the quantity and quality the NDS catalogue had.

Thats because the DS had better third party support. Many of Nintendos own titles on the 3DS are great.

Hmm... Sure, they made great games. However, even if we only look at Nintendo games, they tried much harder during the last gen, both in quantity and quality. Look at Zelda. Look at Metroid, look at Pokemon. Look at Mario/Mario Kart. 3DS games of those franchises can't keep up with the ones NDS hasdto offer.



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Not with a bang but a whimper."

Id like to see Nintendo go all out, rekindle the fire, and aim for the moon again.
I hope they do a new series of Mario Galaxy games.



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Vodacixi said:
KLXVER said:

Thats because the DS had better third party support. Many of Nintendos own titles on the 3DS are great.

Hmm... Sure, they made great games. However, even if we only look at Nintendo games, they tried much harder during the last gen, both in quantity and quality. Look at Zelda. Look at Metroid, look at Pokemon. Look at Mario/Mario Kart. 3DS games of those franchises can't keep up with the ones NDS hasdto offer.

What...Metroid Prime Hunters? Metroid Prime Pinball? Two of the least liked Zelda games?

I think MK7 is way better than MKDS. Zelda ALBW way better than PH or ST. I dont know about Pokemon.

Games like Kid Icarus: Uprising, Super Mario 3D Land, Luigis Mansion 2 and Paper Mario: Sticker Star are pretty ambisious games for a Nintendo handheld.

I just think you are a bit blinded by nostalgia on this one.



Oh OP, you are so right in that post there's not even a left anymore.

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Ahem. Yes. Yes, I agree fully. They did good in the first few years of the 3DS, but later, and with the WiiU, not so much.



Agree 100%
Wii U library is synonymous of unambitious (with little exceptions like X and BotW)



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Vodacixi said:
KLXVER said:

Thats because the DS had better third party support. Many of Nintendos own titles on the 3DS are great.

Hmm... Sure, they made great games. However, even if we only look at Nintendo games, they tried much harder during the last gen, both in quantity and quality. Look at Zelda. Look at Metroid, look at Pokemon. Look at Mario/Mario Kart. 3DS games of those franchises can't keep up with the ones NDS hasdto offer.

So you're saying ALBW, 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, and Pokemon XY/ORAS/SM are that much inferior to their DS counterparts? Then what about Kirby, FE, KI, AC, and Luigi's Mansion?

Edit: While I'll somewhat admit that there wasn't as much ambition this gen for Wii U, I'm not one to dismiss well executed games. And who says Sm4sh isn't that ambitious? Especially with 8-player Smash, new modes, and characters we thought and never expected to make it (possibly creating the greatest crossover roster in the history of video games). Splatoon, Xenoblade Chronicles X, and BoTW are the more ambitious games for Wii U, but there's no way anyone should put DKTF, Pikmin 3, 3D World, Woolly World, Captain Toad, MK8, TMS: #FE under low esteem.



It use to be Nintendo was the company pushing gaming forward. The original Mario and Zelda were incredibly ambitious titles for their time. I think the success of the Wii and DS showed them they didn't need to push barriers to reap massive financial rewards.

Don't get me wrong, they still make some great games, but the whole time I played Galaxy (great game) I couldn't help but think how an HD remaster would be great as well given what I was playing on PS3 at the time.

I'd love a Galaxy 3, but if I had to guess more likely to get another "New" Super Mario Bros. NX, which is fine, just not the type of game that really excites me about a platform.