This thread was an interesting experiment to see how many ignorant judgements I could get, that's for sure.

Contrary to popular belief, disliking one game doesn't mean I automatically dislike all games like it. I don't dislike hard games, I don't dislike slow games, I don't dislike methodical games, I don't dislike skill based games, I don't dislike games that require I dig deep to find the story, and I definitely don't dislike games that require skill, precision, and timing.

Again, one of my all time favorite games is Bloodborne, with another game I love being Dark Souls III. Two superior versions of all the same game design philosophies present in Dark Souls. And don't give me this "Oh, it's older and you just don't like old games' bullshit. If you knew my top 10 game list, it's comprised almost entirely of SNES and NES games. No, i just don't think this is a good example of its own style.

To me, Dark Souls (the original) is like the PS1 and N64 Era when we were just truly delving into 3D. good enough to make it work but not refined enough to do it well. The only games I like from that era are Final Fantasy games (VII, VIII, IX, and Tactics).

Anyway, so I wasted my whole day today beating Ornstein and Smough, then Sif, then Vanguard Demon, then Pinwheel, and now that I'm officially at precisely 50% done all the bosses, with the #1 boss in the game below my belt, I can still say I don't like this game.

Ornstein and Smough were a decent fight, challenging but fair, but it's really the only boss in the game thus far that I came even close to feeling good about. I died a lot, sure (That's the whole point), and I always knew precisely what I did wrong as I did it, but upon beating them, I was like "Oh...well okay, I guess." Because once I found my footing and figured out what worked, they were actually pretty easy. (Turns out trying to fight them with a shortsword is super, super simple). Once I switched to Zweihander, learning that ALL my attacks had to be picked and chosen, I took the weapon that did the most damage. Three attempts later, and they were a joke.

I dunno, I haven't enjoyed any of the areas except Anor Londo, I haven;t enjoyed any of the boss battles except Ornstein and Smough, and I'm 50% through the game. 50% through and I am still waiting for the game to get good.

It's still funny every time I see someone assuming I just 'don't get it' or I suck, because neither of those statements are true. I just don't see why people love this game. it's alright, I guess, but I haven't enjoyed it thus far.

That said, if they ever release another Dark Souls game, I'll be there release day, but for now I'm just powering through to finish it so I can say I beat it, then I'll return to III.

^^^ Different folks, different strokes - while I liked DS3 (which, if I understood correctly, took a lot from Bloodborne when it comes to combat speed), it was really disappointing for me that it basically turned into rolling simulator.

As for areas - I find all 3 games to have great, good and bad areas.

I loved all the games they made but I agree bloodborne and souls 3 are better

Well, I'm done with that! Finally beat Dark Souls and beat all of the DLC and all of the bosses, optional and mandatory.

Honestly, I was a little disappointed in the late game difficulty. Basically, everything post Ornstein and Smough I breezed through. Even Manus, Father of the Abyss, I only died to a few times despite him being billed as one of, if not THE hardest boss in Souls-Borne. (Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, Bloodborne).

Seriously, once I made it to the DLC, Artorias of the Abyss, I beat the Sanctuary Guardian, the entire Royal Wood, and Knight Artorias in one life. Without returning to a bonfire to replenish my estus.

I beat two of the hardest bosses in the game in one life.

Black Dragon Kalameet I only died to once, despite also being billed as one of the hardest bosses in the game.

Then Manus, whom I beat after only four deaths.

Of the game's 26 total bosses, I beat 12 of them on my first attempt (and had a real hard time on some of the simpler bosses like Quelaag). Here's my list:

Asylum Demon - 0x Deaths
Bed of Chaos - 3x Deaths
Bell Gargoyle - 5+ Deaths
Capra Demon - 15+ Deaths
Ceaseless Discharge - 4x Deaths
Centipede Demon - 0x Deaths
Chaos Witch Quelaag - 15+ Deaths
Crossbreed Priscilla - 0x Deaths
Dark Sun Gwyndolin - 3x Deaths
Demon Firesage - 0x Deaths
Four Kings - 0x Deaths
Gaping Dragon 5+ Deaths
Great Gray Wolf Sif - 0x Deaths
Gwyn Lord of Cinder - 10+ Deaths
Iron Golem - 2x Deaths
Kalameet - 1x Deaths
Knight Artorias - 0x Deaths
Manus, Father of the Abyss - 4x Deaths
Moonlight Butterfly - 0x Deaths
Gravelord Nito - 2x Deaths
Ornstein and Smough - 25+ Deaths
Pinwheel - 0x Deaths
Saeth the Scaleless - 0x Deaths
Sanctuary Guardian - 0x Deaths
Stray Demon - 5+ Deaths
Taurus Demon - 0x Deaths

Keep in mind, anything over 5 deaths got guestimated in increments of 5 deaths, so 5+ means more than 5, less than 10.

Some of the hardest bosses in the game (Sanctuary Guardian, Knight Artorias, Four Kings) I beat in one shot. Of course, Ornstein and Smough was the hardest for me. Man, Bloodborne was so, so, so much harder than this game. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yScJo3eb77c

Here's my evidence of a survey of thousands of people who voted on the rankings.

Honestly, though, I'm a little disappointed after this game's super awesome reputation. As demonstrated above (And keep in mind I did every boss solo, no summons, no co op, no multiplayer), I've gitten gud, as it were, so it's not like the challenge is a problem, but it just seemed like over half of the game was just bad level design or unpleasant to fight bosses or complete pushovers.

There were entirely too many instances where the run to the boss was just too, too long and boring. Too many levels I hated traversing. Too many bosses that were either too cheap or too easy. If I was going to let you know what parts of this game I actually liked, the list would be short.

I loved Anor Londo and Ornstein and Smough despite them being the hardest part of the game. Loved that boss, not once did I feel cheaped out and killed unfairly. GREAT boss design.

I really liked the Painted World of Ariamis, but disliked Crossbreed Priscilla.

I liked the Undead Parish and Undead Burg, but hated the lower city and hated the Capra Demon.

I liked Sen's Fortress, but I didn't love it.

I liked the level design of the Kiln of the First Flame and Gryn, even if he was much harder than the bosses that I had to fight to get to him. (I had to re-learn how to dodge since my shield didn't do shit.)

But that's about it. I liked the STORY of Sif, but the actual boss fight sucked. I disliked Darkroot Basin and Forest.

I HATED:

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Quelaag's Domain (+Quelaag)
Demon's Shrine (+Demon Firesage/Centipede Demon)
The Catacombs/Tomb of Giants (+Pinwheel/Gravelord Nito)
New Londo Ruins (+Four Kings were super easy)
The return to the Undead Asylum (+Asylum Demon)
Darkroot Basin
Darkroot whatever else (+Moonlight Butterfly)
Crystal Cave (+Saeth the Scaleless)
Lost Izalith (+Bed of Chaos)
Lower City (+Capra Demon)
Dark Sun Gwyndolin (But I love Anor Londo)
Depths (+Gaping Dragon)

So yeah, that's far too much of the game I straight up hated. I just...I don't like enough of the game to recommend it. Now, I'm super, duper stoked for the DLC of Dark Souls III, but I never want to return to OG Dark Souls (I just didn't like it, even though I kicked it's ass.)

Yet, the second I beat it, I got a very strong, intense desire to return to it and play through new Game Plus. So, uh, yeah?


TL;DR version: I beat it, but after Anor Londo the game got super, suuuuuuper east, even beat half the DLC in one life without dying. In fact, I beat 12/26 of the game's total bosses on my first attempt.

Runa216 are you more excited for a new Bloodorne or Souls game

I can't be, neither Dark Souls III nor Bloodborne are getting sequels, sadly. 

I am excited to see another game in this style, though. 

It often comes down to which games you played first.  You cut your teeth on the first game you play, and subsequent games become familiar territory. With the exception of the jump from Demon's Souls to the first Dark Souls, I found each new game I played got easier and easier, except for specific bosses. But that's just me getting better at playing those games.

I know that Dark Souls wont be getting any new game anytime soon(though I do believe that after a good 5,6 years, they will make a new entry), I dont remember seeing anything about not making a new bloodborne, specially since it was a big success and it is a Sony IP.To be honest, Bloodborne 2 is very likely.Or did Sony(or From Software) said something about it?

Anyone who thinks the hardest Soulsborne boss is anyone but Orphan of Kos is delusional.

Holy shit, there is practically no downtime to heal.

Bloodborne 2 (or at the very least two more DLCs) needs to happen. The Cainhurst stuff just kind of cuts off and is never really finished. Will Annalise have that baby? What the hell is going on with that Yharnam dreg? Why bother letting you propose to the Vileblood written if she's just going to say no (and for that matter, make it so hard to get that ring in the first place)?

Lots of loose ends.

That said, where is Demon's Souls 2? Or that remaster? Will we ever go to the land of giants?