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SWORDF1SH on 20 August 2016

CGI mate, that's a picture taken with a camera. Who are you fooling?



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JRPGfan on 23 August 2016

Honestly even todays games are unbelievely good looking to me.

I think Detroit become human does a great job of it.



DonFerrari on 23 August 2016

Very pretty... and real life is quite artistic... if you design your own tree, or valley and each color of a canyon it's artistic...

I dunno why people enter a thread on photorealism to say they prefer cartoon.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

curl-6 on 23 August 2016
CGI-Quality said:

And for those who think graphics are reaching a stand still, I invite you to look at the target for a next gen human:

That model is really, really horribly designed. The facial proportions are all wrong, it looks like a mouth, eyes, and a nose from three different people were all stuck together, there's no cohesion.

I've seen current gen humans that look better.



curl-6 on 23 August 2016
CGI-Quality said:
curl-6 said:

That model is really, really horribly designed. The facial proportions are all wrong, it looks like a mouth, eyes, and a nose from three different people were all stuck together, there's no cohesion.

I've seen current gen humans that look better.

The entire purpose of showing that model (and essentially why this thread exists in the first place) wasn't for anything but graphical purposes, not attractiveness/beauty. Besides, it's an incomplete version of the character.

I confess I am somehwat ignorant of the technology involved, but holy crap, that's one ugly motherfucker. All the graphical bells and whistles in the world aren't much help if the underlying design work is poor, and I sure as hell hope the standard for a "next gen" human looks a lot better than that. Even as someone who is satisfied with Wii U graphics and still enjoys Wii games in glorious SD, I cringed looking at that model.

Surely there's a better example?



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fatslob-:O on 24 August 2016

I wonder if some next generation games will strive for pre-filterable representations ...



DonFerrari on 24 August 2016
curl-6 said:
CGI-Quality said:

The entire purpose of showing that model (and essentially why this thread exists in the first place) wasn't for anything but graphical purposes, not attractiveness/beauty. Besides, it's an incomplete version of the character.

I confess I am somehwat ignorant of the technology involved, but holy crap, that's one ugly motherfucker. All the graphical bells and whistles in the world aren't much help if the underlying design work is poor, and I sure as hell hope the standard for a "next gen" human looks a lot better than that. Even as someone who is satisfied with Wii U graphics and still enjoys Wii games in glorious SD, I cringed looking at that model.

Surely there's a better example?

You do know that there are ugly people in world right? So it's quite possible that this guy have a real world equivalent.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

curl-6 on 24 August 2016
DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

I confess I am somehwat ignorant of the technology involved, but holy crap, that's one ugly motherfucker. All the graphical bells and whistles in the world aren't much help if the underlying design work is poor, and I sure as hell hope the standard for a "next gen" human looks a lot better than that. Even as someone who is satisfied with Wii U graphics and still enjoys Wii games in glorious SD, I cringed looking at that model.

Surely there's a better example?

You do know that there are ugly people in world right? So it's quite possible that this guy have a real world equivalent.

It looks artificial in a distinctly artifical way though. It's not cohesive the way even an ugly natural face is.



DonFerrari on 25 August 2016
curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:

You do know that there are ugly people in world right? So it's quite possible that this guy have a real world equivalent.

It looks artificial in a distinctly artifical way though. It's not cohesive the way even an ugly natural face is.

There is some strangeness in it, but I wouldn't doubt you would meet someone that would look very similar to it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

GOWTLOZ on 25 August 2016
curl-6 said:
Pemalite said:

I think allot of people felt the jump to be underwhelming... When in-fact it was actually a pretty massive jump.

The old generation had allot of lighting and shadowing baked/pre-calculated and in extreme cases, part of the texture work.
Then the new generation came a long and did it all in real time, dynamically, it's more expensive.

Shame that the Scorpio and Neo is actually launching, would have been interesting to see if developers reverted to pre-calculated/baked stuff to save processing time and bolster imagry elsewhere.

I know that on paper the specs divide is considerable, I was referring more to how that manifests in the actual visual impression that I see on screen. For instance, a game can have 10 times as many polygons, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will look 10 times as good to an observer.

I feel like the rule of diminishing returns combined with their mid-range-in-2013 hardware is preventing PS4 and Xbox One from providing the kind of gargantuan visual leap over PS3/360 that I have come to expect from the generational transitions I've lived through in the past. This is the first generation where I haven't had that "holy crap, how is this even a video game" moment that I got from Gears 1 in 2006, or Rogue Squadron 2 in 2001.

Driveclub looks incredible, you should play it to see what a huge upgrade the graphics have got this generation.

The big upgrades this generation have been in the image quality and dynamic lighting which are not easily observed on the internet. When you play it you will be amazed.