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how fast do we think the ps4 slim will gather attention towards the casual audience?
it won't be shown and up for preorder before 7th september and will probably released 14th september.
without preorders and the casual audience im not sure if it could beat the xbos in september.

september will be the first full months for the xbox one s starting at $299
but now september got way more interesting



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skylanders said:
how fast do we think the ps4 slim will gather attention towards the casual audience?
it won't be shown and up for preorder before 7th september and will probably released 14th september.
without preorders and the casual audience im not sure if it could beat the xbos in september.

september will be the first full months for the xbox one s starting at $299
but now september got way more interesting

Clearing old stock comes first. I expect a price drop next week.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
skylanders said:
how fast do we think the ps4 slim will gather attention towards the casual audience?
it won't be shown and up for preorder before 7th september and will probably released 14th september.
without preorders and the casual audience im not sure if it could beat the xbos in september.

september will be the first full months for the xbox one s starting at $299
but now september got way more interesting

Clearing old stock comes first. I expect a price drop next week.

why next week? why not wait one more week and make it on the 7th.
if they wanted to do a pricecut before, they would have already done it, imho

how much stock can you clear in one week?
unless it's a prime day firesale... :D



skylanders said:

why next week? why not wait one more week and make it on the 7th.
if they wanted to do a pricecut before, they would have already done it, imho

how much stock can you clear in one week?
unless it's a prime day firesale... :D

Sony will have wanted to maintain the price for the PS4 until they had no other choice. Now that the Slim has been revealed they'll likely drop the price of the OG PS4 to maintain sales and clear the old stock. They won't have the same amount of stock as the XB1 and so won't have the same problems clearing old stock. The slim is clearly already shipping so I'm expecting it to launch on the 7th of Sep. Remember Sony called Apple's approach to launching new hardware 'elegant'.

I'm guessing the slim will be no more than $300 and the Neo will be deliberately marked up. It's going to be sold to the 'hobyists' to begin with and then over time it will be brought down in price for mass market. I'll say $400 - $450 and the major advertising will concentrate on 4K (which is why there's no mention of 4K on the Slim) and improved PSVR.



 

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Shadow1980 said:

If there were no price cuts or new models this year for the PS4, I would have estimated it to be around 5.7-5.8M. However, I suspect the Slim and Neo together to provide at least a 20% YoY increase for Q4 this year over Q4 2015 figures. September should be at least 300k as well if the Slim launches early enough. That would put the PS4 at around 2230k for the Q1-Q3 period. Assuming Q4 is exactly 20% higher than last Q4, that's at least 6.3M for the year. However, that's a conservative estimate. A 30% YoY boost for Q4 sales, which could be likely if the Slim gets a temporary $50 price cut for Black Friday weekend and the last couple of weeks before Christmas (which could be the new norm), would yield over 4400k for Q4, bringing the total to around 6.65M. 6.3-6.7M is the most likely range, so I just split the middle and go with 6.5M.

I think you are too optimist here. 

PS4 last year sold ~5.73 million, and so far is down YOY. If Neo and Slim release in October, looks like will be down even this August/September, possible by a good margin since both were pretty strong (209k/354k), probabily >150k.

Now, it will surely be up by a good margin this October, while i don't think will be up by too much in November and December, cause both were insane months (1.54m/1.58m) thanks the $299 pricedrop during Black Friday (equal price to XBO), and the line up of Star Wars, Fallout 4, and of course Black Ops III, one of the bigger COD of the story.

 

Are you expect +2 million in November and December NPD 2016 for PS4? cause i'm saying is impossible but looks really hard to me, you know, only the Wii in 2008 did over 2 million in November(2.04m).

 

I personally expect for the rest of year something like:

Aug - 165k (down 44k)

Sep - 225k (down 129k)

Oct - 400k (up 125k)

Nov - 1.7m (up 161k)

Dec - 1.7m (up 118k)

 

Total 2016 - 5.93m



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GribbleGrunger said:
skylanders said:

why next week? why not wait one more week and make it on the 7th.
if they wanted to do a pricecut before, they would have already done it, imho

how much stock can you clear in one week?
unless it's a prime day firesale... :D

Sony will have wanted to maintain the price for the PS4 until they had no other choice. Now that the Slim has been revealed they'll likely drop the price of the OG PS4 to maintain sales and clear the old stock. They won't have the same amount of stock as the XB1 and so won't have the same problems clearing old stock. The slim is clearly already shipping so I'm expecting it to launch on the 7th of Sep. Remember Sony called Apple's approach to launching new hardware 'elegant'.

i know. but even apple is not out right now.
it's "out right now" aka in one or two weeks ;)

that's why i believe the rumor of the 13/14th as release date
preorder will go up on 7th ofc


so 3 weeks of tracking for september npd
i could see september npd be  1 million + video game systems in the us now
~400k ps4 ~400k xb1 ~100k 3ds ~100k wiiu+360+ps3+vita

OFC +/- 50k for every single system. this is no real prediction.
just could be a decent non holiday months for a long time




skylanders said:

i know. but even apple is not out right now.
it's "out right now" aka in one or two weeks ;)

that's why i believe the rumor of the 13/14th as release date
preorder will go up on 7th ofc


so 3 weeks of tracking for september npd
i could see september npd be  1 million + video game systems in the us now
~400k ps4 ~400k xb1 ~100k 3ds ~100k wiiu+360+ps3+vita

OFC +/- 50k for every single system. this is no real prediction.
just could be a decent non holiday months for a long time


I think the PS4 Slim will be 'out now' and preorders for the Neo might also begin. If that's out before Oct then expect Sep to be a HUGE month.



 

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skylanders said:

~400k ps4 ~400k xb1 ~100k 3ds ~100k wiiu+360+ps3+vita


Lol 100k 3DS?



Ryng_Tolu said:
skylanders said:

~400k ps4 ~400k xb1 ~100k 3ds ~100k wiiu+360+ps3+vita


Lol 100k 3DS?

i just used round numbers, you know?!



skylanders said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

Lol 100k 3DS?

i just used round numbers, you know?!

Round numbers, do you realise 3DS will be over 200k in September?