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Forums - Gaming - Eurogamer: Nintendo NX is a portable console with detachable controllers (It also connects to your TV, and runs cartridges)

JWeinCom on 26 July 2016
jason1637 said:
JWeinCom said:

Core Nintendo fans are the ones who bought the Wii U.  If you hadn't noticed, there aren't that many of them.  And those core Nintendo fans would have bought a pure handheld or a pure console. Probably both.

What exactly does this offer the casual gamer?  Why would mom and dad pay 250 for something to play during roadtrips when tablets run as low as 50 dollars?  $250 is not cheap for a handheld.  

Fans can try to defend this, but it's just not a good idea.  It fixes very few of the problems the Wii U had.  Hopefully, Eurogamer is completely wrong about this, or explained it in an awful way.

This is safer for Nintendo. By the time the NX launches the PS4 will be around 55-60ml and the xb1 will be around 30ml.  It would be hard for Nintendo to come into this console race with a brand new console when the other consolkes have a large userbase already and the PSNEO/Scorpio will out peform the NX. This would be another Wii U situation all over again. Nintendo going pushing portability while still giving the fans the home console experience is very smart buisness wise. Imagine the next Pokemon coming to the NX and you can still play it outside and come home hook it up to your TV and play it online with HD graphics.

Also a $50 tablet wont give you the high quality Nintendo experience a $250 console will.

The 3DS already does online, and I have no desire to play Pokemon in HD.  Pokemon already has dated graphics on the 3DS as it is.  The franchise doesn't sell because its audience is looking for HD visuals.  This thing is not offering a home console experience, at least not the one the fans want.  Fans already stated with their dollars that they were not interested in a home console with gimped visuals and poor third party support.  Making it portable isn't going to help much.  Conversely, the 3DS audience has consistently shown that they don't particularly care about curring edge visuals.  

There is no reason the Neo/Scorpio would have to outperform the NX.  More importantly, there is no reason that the PS4/XBox One have to outperform it.  Since all games for Neo will be playable on PS4, Nintendo should have shot for PS4 levels at a bare minimum.  Console generations typically sell around 200 million, and the last one sold about 250.  With a strong  selling point, there's no reason the NX couldn't have gotten a decent slice of that pie, and at least hit 40 million.  If they legitimately thought they couldn't compete, then they should have made a new handheld, rode out the Wii U for another 2 years, and released something competitive as people tire of the PS4 generation.

For the kind of gamer who wants the home console experience, this won't offer it.  For the kind of gamer who is into portables, this doesn't do all that much to make it more enticing.  Not worth sacrificing their home console presence.  

I'm not a Nintendoom kind of guy... but if this is true... then yeah.  Nintendoomed.

PS.  The mom and dad trying to shut their kid up on a road trip don't care whether or not the experience on a 250 dollar portable is better.



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Paatar on 26 July 2016
Nuvendil said:
Also if this is a handheld first, console second machine, whyin the WORLD have Zelda Breath of the Wild - the most console-centric game Nintendo has made in ages - be the flagship launch as opposed to Pokemon or Mario or one of their other more in-between games like Kart? Why on earth use BotW, which people will just plain NOT want to play on the go?

Which is why, according to this article, you can attatch it to your TV. So that you aren't required to play on the go.



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t3mporary_126 on 26 July 2016

Less powerful than Xbox one means its should be quite cheap right? If this rumour is correct anyway. I'll head slap hard if Nintendo tries to sell this for $300.



JWeinCom on 26 July 2016
SpokenTruth said:
spemanig said:

You're being confusing, unless you're saying that this leak is false.

Well, you tell me how in the world they could append 2 quality controllers to the end of a portable device?

 

Grab your 3DS and add a controller to each end.  Now shove that in your pocket.   Does that sound like a good idea?

Really good point.  A portable has to be designed for portability, and a home console for ergonmics.  Big part of the reason the Gamepad is not as confortable 

Only thing I could think of is if they either have a separate controller for home use (which would defeat the purpose), or some kind of attachable prongs to add to the controller for home use which also seems kind of pointless.



Random_Matt on 26 July 2016

People should stop spouting home console, it isn't. Plugging in a TV doesn't make it a home console, it is a handheld that will probably do fine for Nintendo. It's not going to get PS4/X1 ports or any upcoming game on those platforms.



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dark_gh0st_b0y on 26 July 2016
Ljink96 said:
Here's where I don't agree with the rumor. NX is supposed to be a NEW idea that they're keeping secret from competitors when...um...this is essentially what PSVita+VitaTV is. This isn't new technology. I'm not falling for this one. It sounds great but does it sound new, or would they have a reason to hide 4 year old technology? I doubt it.

my thoughts exactly...

of course it's all speculations before an official presentation, but based on this, there's nothing to be excited at all



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Frogger on 26 July 2016
SpokenTruth said:

Well, you tell me how in the world they could append 2 quality controllers to the end of a portable device?

Grab your 3DS and add a controller to each end.  Now shove that in your pocket.   Does that sound like a good idea?

I am not imagining portable as in 3DS. I'm imagining portable as in laptop/ large tablet.

As for controllers, I'm not saying they're quality. The gamepad definitely isn't. I'm imagining tiny NES style rectangular controllers which dock into the system the way- nope, I see your point. And Rol's.



Sh1nn on 26 July 2016

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360 - 240GF
Xbox One - 1.3TF
PS4 - 1.8TF
Stock Tegra X1 (NX) - 512GF



Goodnightmoon on 26 July 2016
Random_Matt said:
People should stop spouting home console, it isn't. Plugging in a TV doesn't make it a home console, it is a handheld that will probably do fine for Nintendo. It's not going to get PS4/X1 ports or any upcoming game on those platforms.

If you could play with your Ps4 on the go it would suddlenly not be a homeconsole?



kitler53 on 26 July 2016
S.Peelman said:
" (..) the company is already settling on a simple marketing message for NX - of being able to take your games with you on the go."

Well, at least that was still a novelty back in 1989.

console quality on the go!

...sounds like a winning idea if i ever heard one.