PooperScooper said: kingofwale said: Zucas said: Man ioi just owned a lot of people changing those numbers haha.  equivalent exchange.... Let's wait for NPD's number. Ioi didn't own anyone... if he "owned" someone it was gebx because he won but will not "win" no use in waiting for those numbers now. (except for you. You're NPD > VGC)

Dont mean to act biased, but practicly everyone that tracks video game sales uses NPD as there source including sony, and microsoft. So therefore his NPD> Vgchartz in accuract would be correct if he actually said anything about that.

leo-j said: PooperScooper said: kingofwale said: Zucas said: Man ioi just owned a lot of people changing those numbers haha.  equivalent exchange.... Let's wait for NPD's number. Ioi didn't own anyone... if he "owned" someone it was gebx because he won but will not "win" no use in waiting for those numbers now. (except for you. You're NPD > VGC) Dont mean to act biased, but practicly everyone that tracks video game sales uses NPD as there source including sony, and microsoft. So therefore his NPD> Vgchartz in accuract would be correct if he actually said anything about that.

I meant in regards for the bet. No use in waiting for those numbers now. Because no matter what no one is getting banned.

Oh good. The totals actually did change and I'm not going crazy.

 

ioi said: The point is that the numbers (in fact for 360, PS3, PS2 and PSP) are all so close that one piece of data comes in and it can totally reverse the order. Really guys, to try to call it anything other than a tie is a little silly really with the accuracies involved. Same in Japan at the moment - compare MC to Famitsu this week and the orders are reversed for top 3!

I understand this thought process.

But Gebx "won" but he will not get what he aimed to do. (which was getting a bunch of Sony fans banned all at once including Me and KingofWale) I'm just waiting on his reaction when he hears this. I think he is going to be a little mad.

kingofwale said: PooperScooper said: kingofwale said: Zucas said: Man ioi just owned a lot of people changing those numbers haha. equivalent exchange.... Let's wait for NPD's number. Ioi didn't own anyone... if he "owned" someone it was gebx because he won but will not "win" Well, gebx did win, but by claiming he'd wait for NPD's number, (backing off the core of the bet), he himself is casting doubt about VGC's number.   That part I absolutely hate, He should've just acted like the winner and call those who lost.

 I don't doubt VG numbers...

 

Hey ioi can I get some sort of Vg$ bonus or something? maybe take VG$100 from those 12 people and transfer to my account? 

JerCotter7 said: After the sony fans got their hopes up :(

So you must b a MS fan,but anyway, the ps3 still sold more consoles WW so it doesn't matter and this will probably b the closest the 360 will get in total WW sales after gt5:prologue has mighty sales already the gap will start closing faster as more exclusives are released and other mlt. platform titles releases. A price cut is almost a given but HAZE,MGS4,KILLZONE 2,and Resistance 2 will increase sales.The 360 does have great coming but will be later on but we all will see whats what starting with next week numbers.

So if ban bets are banned then what can people bet now? VG dollars?

Am I missing something?

The details of the bet were set, nobody should be able to change that now without total agreement from everyone involved in the bet, no matter how close the margins are.

I agree the ban bets are silly but someone should have stepped in before the victor was determined rather than waiting to step in at the end =P

edit: Bare minimum they should be charged the ban fine and the winner should get the cash when/if the final criteria is met. 

gebx said: kingofwale said: PooperScooper said: kingofwale said: Zucas said: Man ioi just owned a lot of people changing those numbers haha. equivalent exchange.... Let's wait for NPD's number. Ioi didn't own anyone... if he "owned" someone it was gebx because he won but will not "win" Well, gebx did win, but by claiming he'd wait for NPD's number, (backing off the core of the bet), he himself is casting doubt about VGC's number.   That part I absolutely hate, He should've just acted like the winner and call those who lost.  I don't doubt VG numbers...   Hey ioi can I get some sort of Vg$ bonus or something? maybe take VG$100 from those 12 people and transfer to my account?

I'll agree with this myself, but I think we need a confirmation from every other participant. We should also have some agreement on what happens if numbers change again for our favor. Just to make sure that the bet is fully covered from all aspects. That way nobody gets to whine afterwards (though some might say it is precisely what is happening now ;)

Morally, if the numbers don't change another time, the winner of the bet is obvious. Congratulations.

ioi said: We're not banning people at all. I explained previously that "ban bets" are not what we want to be doing on vgchartz - bans are supposed to be taken seriously!

 Sounds like some people are going to be mighty disappointed.