That's the problem, they get us all excited with a super cheap price, but here in Japan it's still a limited supply of founder edition : 660$ !

The situation is a bit better here in Spain because there's supply, but good luck finding one for less than the price of a Founders Edition one.

AMD should've made a $249 card instead of $199.

The should've made the 480 more powerful and the 470 closer to what the 480 is now. $199 R470 4GB, $249 R480 8GB, no 4GB version of the R480.

But would that card have beaten a 1060?

If full Polaris 10 had 40 Compute Units, not the 36 it has (and it's the max capacity, no chance of a new card with 40CUs), I'd say that yes it would. Or at least, it would be a draw.

But a card like that wouldn't cost $249, but rather $299 (it would be a bigger chip and more expensive chip, for starters).

So making it $199 was the best strategy then. Now AMD has a a chance to get at least a few customers who set $200 as their maximum limit even if the 1060 is the more valuable purchase and also has the stronger brand name and trust.

When do people think the 1080Ti will release? It can't be almost 9 months after, like the 980Ti versus GTX 980.

I also wonder if the difference gonna be the same, a GTX 1080Ti being 25% faster than a GTX 1080, and I also wander if the price difference will be the same, only $100 higher, making a GTX 1080Ti much more worth it than buying the current GTX 1080 (for the price of waiting a damn long time ofc).

And I really would like to know when the AMD Vega will release, because I'm reluctant to buy anything other than AMD. It's a pity AMD release schedule is much harder to perdict.

I was really excited by the announcement, especially with the low power usage. then I saw the piece of information that turned this gem into a turd, No SLI. At that price I don't want to limit future expandability, will still be grabbing Rx 480 later this month as at least I can add another next year if need be.

VRWorld claimed in an article made earlier this week that Titan P (P of Pascal, not the actual name) would launch in August, maybe revealed during the Gamescom, and that it would be 50% faster than the 1080. That figure, tho, isn't final as it comes from the fact that it will have 50% more GPC (Graphics Processing Clusters), without factoring frequencies, memory bandwidth (it will use HBM2), etc.

About the 1080Ti, we don't know if the 1080Ti will use the same chip or if it will use a version with some of the TPC (Texture / Processor Cluster) disabled to make it a bit slower like they did with the 980Ti.

By the way, this is the block diagram of the Pascal chips (GP100, 104, 106 & 107)

Note that the rumored GP102 that will power the 1080Ti isn't labeled as its specs are unknown.

When it comes to AMD and Vega, as shikamaru has said, rumors say that AMD has accelerated the production of the chip, but that doesn't really mean anything.

At least we could speculate about its performance based on the rumors we have that state that Vega will have 4096 SPs.

The RX 480 uses the new GCN 4.0 architecture and has 2304 stream processors. The R9 380 uses GCN 1.2 (3rd GCN iteration) and features 1792 SPs. Using TechPowerUp's review of the 480, specifically this page, The 480 delivers roughly 40% more performance with 30% more SPs, so an 1.3 ratio. Given that Fury uses the same GCN 1.2 architecture and that Fury X has 4096 SPs... Vega could be on par or a bit faster than the GTX 1070.

That's not very encouraging :-/