Rare, but they went back to being mediocre again.
Ka-pi96 said:
IIRC the SMT games use that weird first person view thing, that alone makes them pretty mediocre to me. Dunno about the first 2 Persona games, if Atlus ever re-release them on a current platform maybe I'll find out... As for Killzone, the first game was just wasn't that good. The gameplay was poor and it didn't exactly have a storyline worth following either. Killzone 2 and onwards were fantastic games but not the original. |
All right I can agree with you on Killzone 1, but not all SMT games were like that, only the really old ones.Even then, they weren't bad games, just not for everyone I supppose. Then PS2 ones, like Nocturne and Digital Devil Saga were 3d and you'd navigate the world like P3. Heck, in Nocturne you can fight Dante, that alone is pretty cool.

this can be applied to any modern studio really, otherwise they wouldn't be in the industry anymore...
GameFreak made some games before Pokémon, and they did magazines before that...

Level 5. Sure, Dark Cloud was a decent debut for them but I don't think it was great. But they showed promise and man did they deliver with Dragon Quest VIII, Dark Cloud 2, Dragon Quest IX, Inazuma 11, Ni No Kuni, and now Yokai Watch.
| Ka-pi96 said: Atlus for one. Hadn't even heard of them before Persona 3. Still haven't played any games from before then, but they were probably mediocre so... Possibly Guerilla Games, although calling Killzone mediocre would be an insult to all games that actually are mediocre, it was so much worse than that! |
This coming from the guy that platinumed goddamn Killzone 2. And that takes dedication.
EDIT: Thought you were talking about the whole Killzone series, but I see you were just talking about the original. I haven't played that one so I can't say anything about that.

Almost all of them.
But here are some that I like.
Rareware.
Silicon & Synapse.
Nintendo.
Service Games America (and then they went down again)
I think Mojang AB is the only one that knocked it out of the park on try 1.
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| lionpetercarmoo said: 2K Sports |
Really? Mediocre?
They started as a venture by Sega to get sports games on the Dreamcast. And under Sega, they made NFL2k which outsold madden on only the Dreamcast install base.
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Reality Pump. Two Worlds was a game with good idea that was just...bad. Really bad. Two Worlds II isn't winning any awards but it's pretty good with some legitimately great aspects like the magic system.
KungKras said:
Really? Mediocre? They started as a venture by Sega to get sports games on the Dreamcast. And under Sega, they made NFL2k which outsold madden on only the Dreamcast install base. |
I'm talking about when Take Two bought them so YES they were mediorce at first.
lionpetercarmoo said:
I'm talking about when Take Two bought them so YES they were mediorce at first. |
But they started when they we first fuonded by Sega, and then they were not mediocre :P
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