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Aeolus451 said:
Lrdfancypants said:

I Actually think MS set back this possibility by announcing they wanted cross network play, if only Sony would agree, via PR statements.  They could have reached out privately that they were finally ready to do cross network play and actually work something out. It actually makes me think they still really don't want it in reality.  

I read an article that the first time Sony execs heard MS was finally interested in cross network play was when it was announced like that.  If they were truly serious you wouldn't tell the press on a pr blast before trying to reach out to the people you supposedly want to connect with. 

I would have liked to see it but the way it was handled probably set it back a long while and I'm not even sure MS wanted anything more than the press they got for saying it in the long run. 

I could see that. Frankly, it's a clever move on microsoft's part because when crossplay doesn't come around, sony would take the blame for it not happening. I really wish the conversations between  them about on that topic was available to the public. I hope they would come to some kind of agreement on it.

Yep, I'd like to see it but I think the way it was announced pretty much killed the possibility. 



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kowenicki said:
Sony should release all of their exclusives for PC and make cross platform a thing.

It is the only consumer friendly thing to do.

Anything else is Sony being anti consumer.

You cannot convince me otherwise, because it would be an illogical argument.

#4thegamers

 

Libara said:
So opening up your console to play with more people is bad?

 

Chazore said:
I don't get the mentality that trying to round up people and lock them behind a gate for decades and decades more is somehow pro consumer friendly and objectively better than say being open and for everyone.

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I completley agree with OP, sharing exclusives is only pro consumer on the surface but it really isnt if you look at the whole picture. This practice is slowly killing consoles and without them you wouldnt see all these exclusives being made in the first place. Nintendo and Sony wouldnt make all these games if it wouldnt be for spending 300-500$ on a new device for the consumer.

I remember a time where you had dozzens of consoles in the 90s, plus PC and home computer as well as the arcades. All these platforms had their own exclusives and as a result you had more games overall. Today pc and consoles share all the same games, and by far they all have a lot less games overall than previous Gens.

Instead of sharing exclusives how about that MS actually makes some new ones? Their press e3 conference really lacked new exclusive anouncments except for Forza which was excepted anyways



kowenicki said:
Sony should release all of their exclusives for PC and make cross platform a thing.

It is the only consumer friendly thing to do.

Anything else is Sony being anti consumer.

You cannot convince me otherwise, because it would be an illogical argument.

#4thegamers

It would also be consumer friendly if MS would build life size AI Cortana androids that help elderly people and give them away for free. 



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Of course Sony shouldn't, but as a consumer I see no reason not to want it.



Of course opening up their platform is bad. Bad for fanboys that is. How would they ever survive without being able to list exclusives and count how many consoles it sold more than the next competitor. The fact that Sony makes the vast majority of their money with Software instead of hardware is irrelevant.



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vivster said:
Of course opening up their platform is bad. Bad for fanboys that is. How would they ever survive without being able to list exclusives and count how many consoles it sold more than the next competitor. The fact that Sony makes the vast majority of their money with Software instead of hardware is irrelevant.

Yes but they need to sell hardware to get the bulk of that money, Third Party software on their closed platform and PS+ Subcriptions.

Exclusives are their to draw people to the system, the bulk of the money is made from third party and subscriptions. Losing the edge of people buying there console because their friends have it (because it is the best selling and market leader hardware) is a bad move.



Microsoft is only playing the good guy because Sony and Steam have cornered them and they have no choice. Where was this MS the last 2 gens when they were reeling bullish?

Sony should allow cross play but that's it. They've always been open to this. MS only recently came around to it. Again, only because they're cornered and it suits them.



Ruler said:

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I completley agree with OP, sharing exclusives is only pro consumer on the surface but it really isnt if you look at the whole picture. This practice is slowly killing consoles and without them you wouldnt see all these exclusives being made in the first place. Nintendo and Sony wouldnt make all these games if it wouldnt be for spending 300-500$ on a new device for the consumer.

I remember a time where you had dozzens of consoles in the 90s, plus PC and home computer as well as the arcades. All these platforms had their own exclusives and as a result you had more games overall. Today pc and consoles share all the same games, and by far they all have a lot less games overall than previous Gens.

Instead of sharing exclusives how about that MS actually makes some new ones? Their press e3 conference really lacked new exclusive anouncments except for Forza which was excepted anyways

You do realize that on PC people can and do end up fnding some games that are exclusive like Star Citizen, or even in some cases they fund the devs who then make the game multiplat?, either way it's pro consumer, but asking us to pay hundreds of thousands if not millions for a AAA set piece while disregarding and inflating the budgets each year isn't doing anyone a solid favor, in fact it's making problems worse for them and for us. When someone can do a AAA game with a more tame budget there really is no excuse for other parties to learn, to adapt and follow suit and evolve to making games they want without signing blank cheques and then shrugging your shoulders at your consumers when they gasp at the overblown production costs and game price. 

Also back then we all had games, today we more or less do share a library of games but it still doesn't stop us from being able to own and play games of the past, none of them vanished (well if you're on a current gen console then a large majority do not exist today for those owners unless they own all consoles and all of them work and never ever die).



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vivster said:
Of course opening up their platform is bad. Bad for fanboys that is. How would they ever survive without being able to list exclusives and count how many consoles it sold more than the next competitor. The fact that Sony makes the vast majority of their money with Software instead of hardware is irrelevant.

Yes but they need to sell hardware to get the bulk of that money, Third Party software on their closed platform and PS+ Subcriptions.

Exclusives are their to draw people to the system, the bulk of the money is made from third party and subscriptions. Losing the edge of people buying there console because their friends have it (because it is the best selling and market leader hardware) is a bad move.

The fallacy here is that people are not simply buying consoles because exclusives. They buy it first because they aren't PCs and only then decide which of the console to get by exclusives. Believe me when I say that if there were no exclsuive games on consoles, they would still sell a lot.

Just listen to any console peasant rant on why consoles are superior and you will see that exclusives are just one point of many.



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While they are at it, perhaps Sony should stop making consoles that are basically a PC. Time to switch back to the Cell.

Personally, I don't think it matters. People will only switch to PC if they something appealing there. Its gonna take more than cross play to convert people.



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