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Barkley said:
teigaga said:
Mess, I didn't even realise it had a 4k blurry player, I thought it was just 4k output. Ms better market the hell out of this box.

Yup, I didn't know it had a 4k Bluray driver either... thought 4k output as just for digital content (netflix etc). Microsoft better get there marketing in order if people like us who regularly frequent gaming sites don't even know what the thing does.

This information was explained a bunch during E3 including interviews for Eurogamer and a few other sites on the UHD player.  People have even commented in post on this site on the UHD player in the X1 S.  Not sure why this is news to some of you unless you do not follow X1 news.



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Machiavellian said:
Barkley said:

Yup, I didn't know it had a 4k Bluray driver either... thought 4k output as just for digital content (netflix etc). Microsoft better get there marketing in order if people like us who regularly frequent gaming sites don't even know what the thing does.

This information was explained a bunch during E3 including interviews for Eurogamer and a few other sites on the UHD player.  People have even commented in post on this site on the UHD player in the X1 S.  Not sure why this is news to some of you unless you do not follow X1 news.

They announce the thing on a big stage and can't put in "It has a 4k bluray drive" in it. Literally a couple of seconds to state it. When you're revealing a piece of hardware say what it can do when you have the most exposure.

"It's 40 % smaller, it has a 4k blurary drive and it upscales games to 4k." There I just summed up the advantages of the slim over the XBO in a sentence, yet two of those 3 things weren't mentioned when they showed it on their stage at e3.



BasilZero said:
YESSSSSSS

Banjo Kazooie in 4k

Finally, Game of the Century gets 4k support!

Banjo Kazooie wasn't released this Century. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)



BasilZero said:
Barkley said:

Banjo Kazooie wasn't released this Century. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

 

OOOH YA!?!?

 

http://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/951686-banjo-kazooie

 

Check mate Ouya User.

 

HOW YO DOIN!?

Banjo to Kazooie no Daibouken?

BAKA!



Pemalite said:
Azuren said:

As a TV salesman who witnesses both of these types of TVs in action all day:

 

1. I would never recommend an LG TV for gaming, or at very least not one of their smart TVs. It'll ruin anything that moves by covering it with artifacts (this is something that extends to OLEDs and I would be glad to point it out). The insane input lag is great, but your eyes aren't going to be able to catch anything under 13ms, anyway. Burn in risk and bad noise algorithms are too big of a price to pay for this (not to mention sacrificing nearly all of your grayscale).

2. Panasonic's TVs this year are just absolute trash. They just don't really hold a candle to Bravias or Samsungs. I was super excited to set them up, and even more disppointed when it looked like hot garbage, even after adjusting the setting to the best of my ability for 30 minutes.

I have an LG Smart TV. Turning off allot of the processing pretty much eliminates the lag, besides peoples perceptions of input lag will differ from person to person, we may be more "aware" of it whilst the next person might never be able to tell the difference.

And I will never own a Samsung TV. I have repaired a few of them in my time, some components are of questionable quality, especially in some of the cheaper and mid-range models where corners have clearly been cut with things like capacitors.

Burn-in is a non issue if you know what you are doing, same held true for Plasma's, heck even CRT.

As for calibration, nothing beats using the proper tools. :)

Artifacting is the biggest problem of the LGs, not the input lag. In fact, I was commending the OLEDs on their speed, not calling it a problem. And turning off all the background processing defeats the purpose of a smart TV, and having a game console reduces the worth of the applications. Using a TV that has a good processor in it (like a Sony) would allow you to have your cake and eat it, too. As far as I can see, the only reason people buy LG TVs is because of how frequently they go on sale when compared to Samsung and Sony.

 

Of course Burn in is a non-issue if you know how to get around it, and the 2016 LGs actually have a way around it (powering them off is followed by 15 minutes of snowing the screen with the lighting off). But the risk due to the large number of static imagery in video games is still present.

 

30 minutes from me, and a full hour from our TV technicians and their calibration tools. It still looks bad enough that bargain Hunters come in wanting to buy the 65" on sale for $900, but looks it and leave empty handed. It's hot garbage, and we've but stuck with a stock of around 20 of them since they came out.



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DonFerrari said:
Azuren said:

The XBR65x855C is an international version of the 850C, which isn't as ideal for gaming as the 810C (which has a faster input lag).

 

If you're looking for a fast 4K with HDR, though, you're gonna have a bad time. The only ones that really stand out anymore are OLEDs, and burn-in aside... Those LG TVs... Man, if they would spend $50 per TV on a higher end processor, it could handle a better noise algorithm and not get covered in artifacts anytime something moves.

I already bought the TV Azuren... and in country it was the best TV available in it's range (TVs from 6000-9000 where sensibly worst than the 850C, there were only 2 TVs that were better The 9XX Bravia Series and One series 9 or 10 Samsung that would cost around 15-17k... so I ended up with the 10k Sony and I really like it).

Input lag haven't been an issue for me at the moment, at least I haven't felt the lag and the colour crispness is very good for me.

I never said the choice was bad; on the contrary, the 850C was our single most popular TV last year. I was only stating that, as far as gaming is concerned, the lower-priced 810C is more ideal due to its speed. For overall use, the 850C is a superior TV, it's only when in relation to gaming that the 810C performs better. Heck, I personally went with the 930D, and that TVs got a very unimpressive 50+MS on the input lag. I only ever notice it when I look for it. 

 

As far as the 9XXC models are concerned, they're all good except the 900C. They made the panel on it too thin, and there's some nasty light bleed in the bottom corners. Samsungs I don't typically recommend, and LGs I recommend to avoid. As far as smart TVs are concerned, having that X1 processor makes a huge difference and puts Sony TVs at the head of the pack. 



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Azuren said:
DonFerrari said:

I already bought the TV Azuren... and in country it was the best TV available in it's range (TVs from 6000-9000 where sensibly worst than the 850C, there were only 2 TVs that were better The 9XX Bravia Series and One series 9 or 10 Samsung that would cost around 15-17k... so I ended up with the 10k Sony and I really like it).

Input lag haven't been an issue for me at the moment, at least I haven't felt the lag and the colour crispness is very good for me.

I never said the choice was bad; on the contrary, the 850C was our single most popular TV last year. I was only stating that, as far as gaming is concerned, the lower-priced 810C is more ideal due to its speed. For overall use, the 850C is a superior TV, it's only when in relation to gaming that the 810C performs better. Heck, I personally went with the 930D, and that TVs got a very unimpressive 50+MS on the input lag. I only ever notice it when I look for it. 

 

As far as the 9XXC models are concerned, they're all good except the 900C. They made the panel on it too thin, and there's some nasty light bleed in the bottom corners. Samsungs I don't typically recommend, and LGs I recommend to avoid. As far as smart TVs are concerned, having that X1 processor makes a huge difference and puts Sony TVs at the head of the pack. 

I didn't assume you said it was bad... I assumed you were giving tip on what I should buy (but I already bought) no hard feeling.

I like to game, but watching series, movies and other things with the family I love as well so input lag isn't an issue (and I have played on Panasonic Viera Plasma, those less than 1ms input lag... Sony Bravia LED mid-tier), perhaps I suck at gaming or my eyes don't notice it, but lag never disturbed me (well I even accept screen tearing and artifacts if they aren't too severe)

If the end product attract me a lot I can live with the drawbacks.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

My Samsung 4k tv is supposed to upscale 1080p content to 4k. Don't know if it can get better than that.



Angelv577 said:
My Samsung 4k tv is supposed to upscale 1080p content to 4k. Don't know if it can get better than that.

See what was posted by Perma... depends on how good your tv is at upscalling and if you mind the input lag



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

LudicrousSpeed said:
COKTOE said:
I don't get it. Aren't most XBO games in 720p? So, it will upscale these games, the majority of games from 720p to 4K?

No, most Xbone games are not 720p. Most are 1080p just like PS4. You only hear about the ones that aren't 1080p.

If you include indies then yes but most triple A are 900p or dynamic resolution ( a bit over 900p).