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DonFerrari said:
Nuvendil said:

Well keep in mind the number of consoles moved at launch is not proportionately identical to the number of copies sold by any one launch title.  People buying at launch are investing, not buying on the merrits of the console as it stands cause let's just face it, consoles at launch are always lacking in a quantity of quality titles to play on them.  What a really strong launch and first year lineup  of exclusives does - like the Wii and Playstation 2 had - is instill confidence to invest.  It's a different period from any other in a console's lifespan.

If someone is buying because of the potential they wouldn't be buying for the crossgen game.

Is it that hard to grasp the idea that heavy-hitter titles being there at launch helps provide assurance for what's ahead?  And a game being crossgen doesn't necessarily have much impact when 1) the console it is crossgen with is a spectacular sales failure with less than 15 millions sold, 2) the title is launched simultaneously on both, and 3) the title is of sifnicant quality or singicance.  Twilight Princess was a major factor in Wii hype despite being announced for and coming to the GameCube.  And as I already said, Zelda alone won't do it but Zelda is as strong a flagship for a launch as any. 



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Nuvendil said:
DonFerrari said:

If someone is buying because of the potential they wouldn't be buying for the crossgen game.

Is it that hard to grasp the idea that heavy-hitter titles being there at launch helps provide assurance for what's ahead?  And a game being crossgen doesn't necessarily have much impact when 1) the console it is crossgen with is a spectacular sales failure with less than 15 millions sold, 2) the title is launched simultaneously on both, and 3) the title is of sifnicant quality or singicance.  Twilight Princess was a major factor in Wii hype despite being announced for and coming to the GameCube.  And as I already said, Zelda alone won't do it but Zelda is as strong a flagship for a launch as any. 

Patcher is claiming Zelda is going to move, so it's based on Zelda, not on the promisse of potential or future.

And I can be wrong, but crossgen SW wasn't at any time or console a incentive to go to the next gen, even more if the next gen isn't head and shoulder ahead.

 

So yes, it's hard to grasp NX outselling the WiiU LTD in one year because of Zelda.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Nuvendil said:

Is it that hard to grasp the idea that heavy-hitter titles being there at launch helps provide assurance for what's ahead?  And a game being crossgen doesn't necessarily have much impact when 1) the console it is crossgen with is a spectacular sales failure with less than 15 millions sold, 2) the title is launched simultaneously on both, and 3) the title is of sifnicant quality or singicance.  Twilight Princess was a major factor in Wii hype despite being announced for and coming to the GameCube.  And as I already said, Zelda alone won't do it but Zelda is as strong a flagship for a launch as any. 

Patcher is claiming Zelda is going to move, so it's based on Zelda, not on the promisse of potential or future.

And I can be wrong, but crossgen SW wasn't at any time or console a incentive to go to the next gen, even more if the next gen isn't head and shoulder ahead.

 

So yes, it's hard to grasp NX outselling the WiiU LTD in one year because of Zelda.

Oh I wasn't referring to Pachter's numbers which are crazy predictions for a system we haven't seen.  I was saying that Zelda is a good centerpiece as centerpieces go and can certainly help the console get off to a very good start, assuming that the surrounding titles for the launch and first year are good.  And I suppose what I am trying to get across is that *at launch* - not at any other period, but *at launch* - the consoles a title moves=/=people buying the system for that game.  It's about generating excitement and confidence in the platform.  More than in any other point in a console's lifecycle, exclusives at launch are tools.  Using them correctly via advertising and bundling, they can have an impact disproportionate to their usual sales.  

Also cross gen titles can move consoles.  Shoot, it happened this gen multiple times and most of those crossgen games came out years later.  The gap just needs to be noticeable and the promotion needs to be focused on the new gen version, not the old gen version.  



Translation: Nintendo NX will never reach 10 million sales :(



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

I feel like this guy just says stuff without doing any research at all. Just looking at Zelda's sales makes this prediction ridiculous not to mention all the other variables. Is he related to someone important in the gaming industry cause I don't understand how this guy keeps getting interviews and stuff like that.



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Nuvendil said:
DonFerrari said:

Patcher is claiming Zelda is going to move, so it's based on Zelda, not on the promisse of potential or future.

And I can be wrong, but crossgen SW wasn't at any time or console a incentive to go to the next gen, even more if the next gen isn't head and shoulder ahead.

 

So yes, it's hard to grasp NX outselling the WiiU LTD in one year because of Zelda.

Oh I wasn't referring to Pachter's numbers which are crazy predictions for a system we haven't seen.  I was saying that Zelda is a good centerpiece as centerpieces go and can certainly help the console get off to a very good start, assuming that the surrounding titles for the launch and first year are good.  And I suppose what I am trying to get across is that *at launch* - not at any other period, but *at launch* - the consoles a title moves=/=people buying the system for that game.  It's about generating excitement and confidence in the platform.  More than in any other point in a console's lifecycle, exclusives at launch are tools.  Using them correctly via advertising and bundling, they can have an impact disproportionate to their usual sales.  

Also cross gen titles can move consoles.  Shoot, it happened this gen multiple times and most of those crossgen games came out years later.  The gap just needs to be noticeable and the promotion needs to be focused on the new gen version, not the old gen version.  

Oww in that case I agree =]

Yes, Zelda is a good start for the platform and shows promisse. I was talking about expecting that Zelda alone would move 10M NX... for it to move alone it would have to sell much more than 10M on that platform because at least 10M would have to buy because of it and others would buy as a bonus.

I haven't seem any cross game that became alone the must buy of buying the new platform (and in the case of Zelda we were only show the WiiU version, if NX version isn't a lot better than it will be even less of a factor).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."