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Should Britain stay or leave?

Stay! 185 48.43%
 
Leave! 197 51.57%
 
Total:382
Fei-Hung said:
Hedra42 said:

It's official. Cameron will stay on for 3 months, and his replacement will start the exit negotiations at some point after that. But it will be a gradual unravelling over some years, so I understand.

The difference was 4% - but even so, yes, very small.

I thought it was under 2%. 48.1 to 51.9%.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

 

Jeremy Corbyn has been voted out on no confidence. 

 

If you want to split hairs, it's actually 3.8%. Check the math.

Corbyn hasn't been voted out - two MPs have submitted a motion of no confidence. This means there will be a discussion about it, and if the motion is accepted, there will be a secret ballot next week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36621777



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唯一無二のRolStoppableに認められた、VGCの任天堂ファミリーの正式メンバーです。光栄に思います。

gg Britain



COX said:
I wish that it will be an occasion to reform the EU. I hope that one EU will look more like my country.

The vote should have been about that. No one really had an issue with the EU as a whole, they had an issue with what it had become. Sadly, people can't see that you can't just ditch something if you think it's lost, you should try to fix it. Lots of the weird rules and regulations needed to be thrown out and EU should have had actually elected officials too.

The black & white approach never seemed reasonable. Sigh.



Soundwave said:
Symbolic said:

Would you be claiming that "democracy has failed" if the UK populace voted to remain in the EU?

Well I will say this, looking at the exit polls it looks like it if was just people 65 or younger voting, the "Remain" side would've won fairly easily. 

It's people 65 and over that tilted the scales ... and I have to question whether or not people, many of whom are likely to be dead in 10-15 years have the right to change the future of a country that they won't be living in pretty soon. 

Indeed, this picture says it all


Now I wonder what percentage of each age group turned out to vote.
With an important decision like this with results this close, a re vote should be in order.



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Ka-pi96 said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

I agree

Britain's major problem with the EU is the migration part, they don't want their country to become multinational and lose its identity and culture, which is absolutely normal and understandable, as it is the only country in the EU whose language is English, so it makes it the absolute destination for work

There's also Ireland...

yea, my bad, only North Ireland is part of the UK

UK still got all the migration as a base for businesses and investments



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

SvennoJ said:

Now I wonder what percentage of each age group turned out to vote.
With an important decision like this with results this close, a re vote should be in order.

Would you be calling for a revote if 'remain' had defeated 'leave' by ~3.8%?





Hedra42 said:
Fei-Hung said:

I thought it was under 2%. 48.1 to 51.9%.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

 

Jeremy Corbyn has been voted out on no confidence. 

 

If you want to split hairs, it's actually 3.8%. Check the math.

Corbyn hasn't been voted out - two MPs have submitted a motion of no confidence. This means there will be a discussion about it, and if the motion is accepted, there will be a secret ballot next week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36621777

yea, just considering the fact that it is only 2 choices, so if only a small 2% would change their mind, the result would be the opposite



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

SvennoJ said:
Soundwave said:

Well I will say this, looking at the exit polls it looks like it if was just people 65 or younger voting, the "Remain" side would've won fairly easily. 

It's people 65 and over that tilted the scales ... and I have to question whether or not people, many of whom are likely to be dead in 10-15 years have the right to change the future of a country that they won't be living in pretty soon. 

Indeed, this picture says it all


Now I wonder what percentage of each age group turned out to vote.
With an important decision like this with results this close, a re vote should be in order.

I posted most of these facts in response to that picture already:

First, there was no exit poll.

Second, this picture is extrapolated from a poll of 1652 people on 17th-19th June. And we all know the way VGChartz works. :P

Demographic polls showed the profile of a Remain voter was most likely a 24 year old female graduate living in Scotland, while the profile of a typical Leave voter was a 60 year old male skilled labourer living in East Anglia.

It wasn't so much the age of people but their distribution that was remarkable in this vote - the Remains were predominantly in London or in Scotland. Interestingly, the turnouts in Scotland were  67% which was below the average UK turnout of 72%, and significantly below the Scottish Independence referendum, when 84% turned out.

Lots of people didn't vote because they were rolling around in mud in Glastonbury. Lots of other people didn't vote because they were wading around their flooded homes.

Could Glastonbury and the bad weather have made a difference? If more Scottish voters turned out, would it have made a difference? If Northern Ireland, Wales or England had been playing in the Euro football that evening, would that have made a difference?

Who knows...