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DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Elaborate, I think I'm missing your point.

So many users were betting that MS would use its warchest to make Xbox One stronger and cheaper to buy than PS4 and that they would do everything to win the gen. We are still waiting for them to burn the money to achieve that... and now you are saying they are going to do it with Scorpio.

Ah, so you've went from MS promised something to many users were betting? Two different things, you're now backpeddling.

X1 was more expensive at launch primarily due to the Kinect but its now cheaper than PS4. I anticipate the Scorpio will be competitively priced even if it has superior specs.



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Scorpio will be relatively cheap, for just $700 it will include Kinect 2.5 as standard equipment.

 

 

 



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Alby_da_Wolf said:

Scorpio will be relatively cheap, for just $700 it will include Kinect 2.5 as standard equipment.

 

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MS's plan is to copy what Sony did back when the PS3 Slim first launched which was a total rebrand and redesign. At the time, PS3 was getting murdered by Xbox and that entire sea shift changed everything and is what eventually allowed the PS4 to win back gamers. They're banking on the same success with their new revised console.

Having said all that, I think it's false to ignore Nintendo until we see what they're brining. The Wii was ignored similarly and it destroyed both Sony and Microsoft in sales and success.



Mr Puggsly said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

Scorpio will be relatively cheap, for just $700 it will include Kinect 2.5 as standard equipment.

 

Ya know, not all jokes are winners but don't let that stop you from trying.

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Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:

So many users were betting that MS would use its warchest to make Xbox One stronger and cheaper to buy than PS4 and that they would do everything to win the gen. We are still waiting for them to burn the money to achieve that... and now you are saying they are going to do it with Scorpio.

Ah, so you've went from MS promised something to many users were betting? Two different things, you're now backpeddling.

X1 was more expensive at launch primarily due to the Kinect but its now cheaper than PS4. I anticipate the Scorpio will be competitively priced even if it has superior specs.

Where did I say MS promissed?

I was talking about users from the beggining... like you know are "promissing" that Scorpio will use MS deep pockets to win, that was the same promise you and others done about the One and we still haven't see it happen. So I'm not backpeddling one inch. You are trying to spin and put words to try and win.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Ah, so you've went from MS promised something to many users were betting? Two different things, you're now backpeddling.

X1 was more expensive at launch primarily due to the Kinect but its now cheaper than PS4. I anticipate the Scorpio will be competitively priced even if it has superior specs.

Where did I say MS promissed?

I was talking about users from the beggining... like you know are "promissing" that Scorpio will use MS deep pockets to win, that was the same promise you and others done about the One and we still haven't see it happen. So I'm not backpeddling one inch. You are trying to spin and put words to try and win.

You said, "Just like they did for Xbox One right? Still waiting for it. We were promissed."

So I dunno, maybe I misunderstood?



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Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:

Where did I say MS promissed?

I was talking about users from the beggining... like you know are "promissing" that Scorpio will use MS deep pockets to win, that was the same promise you and others done about the One and we still haven't see it happen. So I'm not backpeddling one inch. You are trying to spin and put words to try and win.

You said, "Just like they did for Xbox One right? Still waiting for it. We were promissed."

So I dunno, maybe I misunderstood?

You either misunderstood or purpousely spin it, I wouldn't know.

But You said like you were certain MS would use their money to ensure a more powerfull and cheaper machine, the same other users said before this gen started, that is what I meant that on the promissed because those users were basically promissing it, just like you were in this thread.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

flint said:

I don't get it? Why announce Scorpio now, with specs? Why after four years a ~4 to 5x upgrade?. Surely they're just leaving themselves open for Sony to come out at next years E3 and go: here's the PS5, it's been five years it's the next gen. No wonder they're not announcing, would they scrap the current NEO IDK so many questions

I don't think Sony will throw that much R&D out of the window.



DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

You said, "Just like they did for Xbox One right? Still waiting for it. We were promissed."

So I dunno, maybe I misunderstood?

You either misunderstood or purpousely spin it, I wouldn't know.

But You said like you were certain MS would use their money to ensure a more powerfull and cheaper machine, the same other users said before this gen started, that is what I meant that on the promissed because those users were basically promissing it, just like you were in this thread.

Youre making assumptions of what I expected in the past.

I expect Scorpio to be competitively priced and there is no need to argue about it. If I'm wrong, oh well. MS is making a mistake if they dont.



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