So what you're saying is that AMD are lying and AMD are right? What sort of mind fuck is this!

So your saying that dec 15 ps4 and xb1 were at 58ml and now its over 50ml?

What i said at first was that it is probably over 20ml but i never said some like it is over 20ml or something along those lines. 

Ok I found this so they've taken data from a report that is months old.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1172918&page=1

This bit dude, "but i guess since MS hasnt announced official numbers other companies can't come out and say the xb1 has sold so and so many units. "

If was just a load of fluff that didn't relate to anything.

I think it's more interesting that after all the deals it's failed to gain anymore traction than before Spencer took over.
Wasn't it essentially 2:1 when he took over? He has done everything one could think of from ditching Kinect, cutting price, throwing in freebies and so on and it's still essentially 2:1.
I don't envy him.

well one thing we can say for certain is PS4 is roughly double the xbox. It'll definitely be easily double by the end of the year too.

In 2014 Aron geenburg said, they are "about" to reach 10 million shipped. They didn't shipped 10 million by then. Microsoft hiding numbers means sales are pretty bad.

To add to that, sony press release confirmed they sold through 35.9 million PS4's by end of 2015. So with that of we do the math:

36million PS4's sold 

2million PS4's on shelves 

That leaves about 21 million for Xbox sales. 

The problem here is we have no sales numbers for the X1 and I wouldn't be surprised if MS overestimated sales due to Halo5, RotTR and Forza and therfore ended up with more units on shelves. 

If we say there are 4 million Xboxs on shelves we would have a sell through of about 17 million Xboxs by end of 2015. 

However, we know that the PS4 is roughly outselling the Xbox 2-1 and at times almost 3-1. If the PS4 has only managed to sell 4million units since their 35.9million statement, it's impossible that MS has sold 3million or more in that same time frame. 2-1 sales would mean MS has sold 2 million units bringing Xbox sales to about 19million. 

I'm just saying its possible that it could be the case.. If i were the head of a branch in a company and the company decided not to release sales # i wouldnt allow my partheners to release concrete sales numbers also.