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Mazzy on 25 June 2016
Ryng_Tolu said:
Shadow1980 said:

Right now my predictions would be:

PS4: 300k
XBO: 180k
Wii U: 45k

Those looks like high prediction for PS4 and Wii U...

Why you expect a 17% boost in weekly sales for PS4?

Back in 2014, PS4 got only a 9% boost in weekly sales, and this even if was down MOM in May with one week of Watch Dogs...

 

This time PS4 got a good 18% MOM boost April to May, and this with 3 weeks of Uncharted 4 (so it will hardly have an effect even in June), there is a good chance that PS4 weekly sales will be down MOM, i would say most likely flat, but why should get a bigger boost than in 2014?

 

Also Wii U 80% boost... No, i mean just no. With the Wii U shortages + the NX talk + 0 marketing sales are just gonna be worse and worse every months.

 

My predictions:

PS4: 260K

XBO: 200k

Wii U: 32k

Seems very high for XB1. It's been down this year quite a bit and has been doing quite awful this month on Amazon even with the bundles. 



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Ryng on 25 June 2016
Mazzy said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

Those looks like high prediction for PS4 and Wii U...

Why you expect a 17% boost in weekly sales for PS4?

Back in 2014, PS4 got only a 9% boost in weekly sales, and this even if was down MOM in May with one week of Watch Dogs...

 

This time PS4 got a good 18% MOM boost April to May, and this with 3 weeks of Uncharted 4 (so it will hardly have an effect even in June), there is a good chance that PS4 weekly sales will be down MOM, i would say most likely flat, but why should get a bigger boost than in 2014?

 

Also Wii U 80% boost... No, i mean just no. With the Wii U shortages + the NX talk + 0 marketing sales are just gonna be worse and worse every months.

 

My predictions:

PS4: 260K

XBO: 200k

Wii U: 32k

Seems very high for XB1. It's been down this year quite a bit and has been doing quite awful this month on Amazon even with the bundles. 

Last year it sold 297.000, so i predict a massive YOY drop.

Basically, i think that those massive deals + the official pricedrop drops will help... but maybe the slim will east a lot of sales in June and surely July. Before the NPD is out i will probabily change those predictions.



jason1637 on 25 June 2016

June NPD predictions
PS4- 290k
XB1- 190-200k
WeeYOu- 40k



Angelv577 on 25 June 2016

What happened to the Xbox slim sales? Does Scorpio announcement hurt the slim sales that much?



GribbleGrunger on 25 June 2016

2 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#21 PS4 Black Ops III Bundle (same)
#41 XB1s-2tb (down 5)
#85 PS4 Fool's Edition (up 6)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#06 WiiU Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE (same)
#12 PS4 Star Ocean (down 1)
#18 PS4 Persona 5 PE (same)

If I were Sony, this is what I would do: I would announce the Neo in the second week of August with a release date of September and start preorders. Lots of people will then cancel their preorders for the XB1s in favour of buying the more powerful Neo. This would cause instablity at retailers for Microsoft, forcing them to have to either settle for low sales until Christmas or offer bundles earlier than they would like. If they settle for lost sales until Christmas then Sony gain leading up to Christmas and still sell well at Christmas itself. If they opt to add a game or two then that decreases the sense of value once again and they're back to square one, not being able to sell the base model for the asking price.

All XB1s sales are sales that reduce their NPD numbers (until Sep) and with their normal model struggling to even stay in the top 100 (currently there isn't even one), the next three months could see Sony capitalising on this sudden drop. MS will be counting on those preorders to make up for those lost sales but if Sony do as I suggested, it could backfire badly.



 

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GribbleGrunger on 26 June 2016

6 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#21 PS4 Black Ops III Bundle (same)
#43 XB1s-2tb (down 2)
#90 Vita Remembrance (re-entry)
#99 PS4 Fool's Edition (down 14)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#08 WiiU Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE (down 2)
#11 PS4 Star Ocean (up 1)
#19 PS4 Persona 5 PE (down 1)



 

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SWORDF1SH on 26 June 2016
GribbleGrunger said:

6 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#21 PS4 Black Ops III Bundle (same)
#43 XB1s-2tb (down 2)
#90 ita (re-entry)
#99 PS4 Fool's Edition (down 14)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#08 WiiU Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE (down 2)
#11 PS4 Star Ocean (up 1)
#19 PS4 Persona 5 PE (down 1)

What is this 'ita' you speak of? 



GribbleGrunger on 26 June 2016
SWORDF1SH said:
GribbleGrunger said:

6 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#21 PS4 Black Ops III Bundle (same)
#43 XB1s-2tb (down 2)
#90 ita (Itsby-bitsy Handheld)
#99 PS4 Fool's Edition (down 14)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#08 WiiU Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE (down 2)
#11 PS4 Star Ocean (up 1)
#19 PS4 Persona 5 PE (down 1)

What is this 'ita' you speak of? 

It's a smaller version of the Vita.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


Ryng on 26 June 2016
Shadow1980 said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

Those looks like high prediction for PS4 and Wii U...

Why you expect a 17% boost in weekly sales for PS4?

Back in 2014, PS4 got only a 9% boost in weekly sales, and this even if was down MOM in May with one week of Watch Dogs...

This time PS4 got a good 18% MOM boost April to May, and this with 3 weeks of Uncharted 4 (so it will hardly have an effect even in June), there is a good chance that PS4 weekly sales will be down MOM, i would say most likely flat, but why should get a bigger boost than in 2014?

Because, at least in more recent years, weekly average sales in June are frequently up compared to April and usually up compared to May. This is even in the absence of anything that might stimulate sales. In 2010, the PS3's weekly average in June was 65.6% bigger than April's and 93.7% bigger than May's, and that was with no big games and no price cuts. In 2011 the 360's per-week average in June was 36.6% bigger than April's and 50.2% bigger than May's, while for the PS3 those figures were a more modest 8.2% and 24.7%. In 2012 June lost much of its advantage in the per-week department—the 360's weekly average in June was down 12.9% from April's and up—and in 2013 both were flat per-week from May and down from April, but at that point the 360 & PS3 were in decline. In 2014 the XBO was up big time in June because the first $400 Kinect-less SKU was released, but the PS4's per-week average managed to be up 8.1% from April and 9.2% from May. Last year both systems were up a considerable amount per-week in June from April & May, but to be fair last year in June the PS4 had the LE Batman bundle and the XBO had its first 1TB SKU.

That being said, I forgot to take into account UC4's effect on May's sales. After doing so, I do think I need to revise my PS4 estimate down. Somewhere in the 250-270k range seems more probable.

Also Wii U 80% boost... No, i mean just no. With the Wii U shortages + the NX talk + 0 marketing sales are just gonna be worse and worse every months.

Yeah. I was thinking the Wii U sold 30k last month when it sold only 25.3k. So 30-35k seems more probable for June.

Well basically 250-270K is my range too for PS4, like 30-35K for Wii U... looks like we mostly agree here.



GribbleGrunger on 26 June 2016

6 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#25 PS4 Black Ops III Bundle (down 3)
#36 XB1s-2tb (up 7)
#96 3DSXL Red (re-entry)
#97 PS4 Fool's Edition (up 2)
#98 Vita (down 8)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)
#08 WiiU Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE (same)
#11 PS4 Star Ocean (same)
#17 PS4 Persona 5 PE (up 2)



 

The PS5 Exists.