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Basically because IGN hasn't been caught selling out to sponsors yet. I seriously doubt Gamespot was alone in that practice, they just happened to be stupid and obvious about it. But until the same thing happens at IGN, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

It's not like you can lump the entire output of any of these games sites together anyway. IGN has some great reviewers and some atrocious ones. Luckily the major releases usually go to the good ones.



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Both are a joke, really. IGN's editing is horrible, and they often cave into hype for big games. Gamespot lost all of their good reviewers after Gerstmann-gate, so any pre-2007 review from them is still good, but new ones aren't.

I prefer 1UP and Eurogamer myself, mostly because they're harsh reviewers who "tell it like it is," but I might be alone in that respect.



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I lost faith in GameSpot after the Gerstmann firing kerfuffle.

I do, however, find it funny when people lose faith in an entire website/magazine over a single review (e.g., Twilight Princess, Tools of Destruction). At this point, EVERY major gaming website and magazine has published at least one review that goes against the critical/popular consensus.



It's not a question on whether Jeff was an asset or not to gamespot. I didn't really like Jeff. He bashed Wii sports a bit while lazily trying to play it sitting down. There was a lot of crap from Jeff, but the point is the "nature" of why they fired him. First of all, why did they keep such a biased reviewer for so long anyway? How did he make it to the highest reviewing position? And most importantly, why did they not ever fire him until their advertisers got mad? Gamespot is FULL of strange tripe that doesn't seem ethical or worth my time.

IGN at least is a group of people who get along together and give honest opinions about what they like or don't like and talk about what they can say and give hints toward things they can't. Much more respectable. Sure they might overinflate a review here or there or underinflate one, but don't all reviewers? Especially reviewers that really like the console they review for? I would much rather have someone give honest opinions for a console they like rather than a console they hate.




I dont trust either of them .I tend to like IGN a bit more ,but both mags seem to really hate games.They are always nitpicking .Last time was with Dark Sector that the only gripe found in the review is that the protagonist sometimes under determinate camera angles doesnt looks as good :7.7 .They dont give a 9 nearly ever and one of two small nitpicking issues can grant a game a 6.5 easily .

I dont like that in IGN for example the multiplattform titles the PS3 version is reviewed by the 360 team and always finds some frame rate problems that no other mag ever mentions .

And GS has been on the way down for a long time .They dont like handheld games so butcher each and every hanheld game ,they dont put reviews at the same time as IGn or even Game Informer but weeks later ,their site seems to be updated once each two days at most ....



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theRepublic said:
I read about the Jeff Gerstmann thing on Penny Arcade back when it happened. I thought "ohh, it's a conspiracy" like everyone else. But looking back on it, it seems more like sour grapes.

He gave the game a 6 when the average was about a 6.5 (IGN gave it a 7 for comparison) which wasn't that far of the mark.

Eidos was the publisher that was suposed to have put all the pressure on Gamespot, but thay aren't that big a publisher, are they? They're certainly no EA.

Reading some of the reviews on Gerstmann's new website leads me to believe that Gamespot didn't lose anything in letting him go, and maybe is better off without him.

We will never know the whole story, but you have to take Gerstmann's side with a grain of salt in my opinon. Although if it is true, I guess that would be pretty damning for Gamespot.

I just don't see any real changes in Gamespot since he left.

If you don't see the changes in GS since he left then you either dont want to see them, or you are not LOOKING at all.

There has been a massive and completely un-ignorable EXODUS of VETERAN game reviewers and journalists from the site, ALL of which have gone on the record about noone wanting to stay there due to a feeling of lack of job security. Whos to say writing an honest review wont get you axed? You really need to go read more of the actual EMPLOYEES who left Gamespots posts and rants. Not trusting Gerst is no reason for you to not believe GS is selling reviews, because there are TONS of others who have confirmed what happened. Trust Gerst or not, its just a fact. Its not speculation or rumormongering, what happened happened, and its a damn shame. We have known the "whole story" for a while now. I'm sorry but it annoys me to see you say "We don't have any details" or "We will never know" or "Perhaps it was just sour grapes" when theres more than enough material out there for you to go and seek out yourself and plenty of proof that the man was axed due to Eidos paying GS for lots of Adspace, then putting pressure on GS after the bad review of a game they were hoping to make a big splash with.

In fact a GS employee actually DETAILED how the merging of certain departments and changes in staff higher up the chain resulted in that nonsense where marketing gained the control it has within GS. I don't like Gerst. His reviews sucked, especially his Nintendo reviews. He sucked IMO, but that just doesn't justify what they did to him and why. Letting him go because they felt his writing sucked? Sure. Letting him go because he showed up to work Drunk with a shaved head? Ok. But firing the man because he did his job and rated a bad game badly, despite the fact that the publisher was pumping ad dollars into the company is wrong. And inexcusable. We have few reliable review sites as is due to bias (Some sites just hate the Wiimote period, Some are just in love with the 360, and others are bitter Nintendofans that hate the PS3) to let any more fall to that type of nonsense would be silly. Thats why theres such hatred for GS.

 

IGN doesn't sell their reviews, and they have different teams for each console. This prevents some guy who hates Nintendo and the games and nongames they make the Wiimote and ALL motion controls from reviewing Brawl. It prevents those types of things from happening and thats good. You get different scores for multiplats depending on each reviewers opinion, and thats perfectly fine. If you want to know which multiplat is the best then you need to stop looking and the number scores and read the TEXT in the review. Thats where you will find mention of any technical issues, and from there its up to you to decide what fits your taste better. No reviewer knows you better than you, they give their honest opinion and the rest falls on your shoulders.

 



I could never prove it but i swear that microsoft pays gamespot to rate xbox games high and ps3 and wii games low. I once looked at every ps3 game i could find and every single the gamespot rating was lower than the avg. That could happen some of the time but every time? I dont think so.

Then the stuff with Gertsmann proved there were issues there and now I wont even use Gamefaqs because they are connected. Actually the only sites i use are this one and n4g.com



I go to IGN because that's the place I started going to back in the N64 days. The first I'd ever heard of Gamespot was when game nerds declared war on it.



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theRepublic said:
Just did a little more digging and it appears that Gerstmann was "Editorial Director" when he was fired, which seems to be Gamespot's highest position. I didn't realize that. I thought he was just some reviewer. Not sure how long he was in that position, but he was with Gamespot for 11 years.

Still not convinced he was anything special, or that Kane and Lynch was the only reason.

 So if someone isn't "special"(guess 11 years of service to a company means nothing to you), it's ok to throw them out the window?

If the Gamespot fairy flew down from the clouds and told you Gamespot was crooked, would you accept it then? Probably not.

I quit going to Gamespot after that whole mess. It's beyond me why any reasonable person would support a company like that when there are plenty of fine alternatives out there. 



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