Aren't beta tests these days just glorified demos?

Definitely. Also fully expecting 60fps uncharted 4 for Neo at E3.

For a game like this, yeah.  This isn't an open world game where users are going to find bugs the programmers don't already know about.  The only area where it might be meaningful is the online functionality, though I have my doubts about how much value a beta adds in that regard and you'd think PD has enough experience in that capacity already.

EA certainly treats them as such

Gran Turismo seems to be in some big trouble right now sadly.

Hmm, now I dunno about that. I don't see the Neo being quite powerful  enough to push those visuaals at 60fps, but I guess Sony might surprise me. It would definitely make it a more attractive purchase for me.

60fps was the campaign target until a few months ago. So neo would surely provide that little extra boost. Not going to lie, Neo is delaying my uncharted 4 purchase now.

GT5 cost $60m alone, while the entire Uncharted series on PS3 (1-3) cost about the same. And Uncharted 1-3 definitely beats GT5 :P. PD do fine, but they can do better.

Why would Neo delay your UC4 purchase? Are you buying a PS4 just for UC4?

No but I've got a backlog as it is and a few other games like quantum break I want play first so might as well hold off until neo is unveiled as if I will be able to play some games with a better frame rate im happy waiting a bit longer. Not as if e3 is far off.

On the counter of Xbox 1.5 might also run games better, I've no intention of upgrading the xb1, but would happily upgrade my ps4.