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Forums - Nintendo - Sun/Moon Final Starter Types Possibly Leaked! Litten = Fire/Ground, Popplio = Water/Fighting!

Ka-pi96 said:
burninmylight said:
I don't understand why everybody thinks a Pokemon staying monotype is a bad thing. A diverse and expansive movepool is better than having two types.

Because 2 things are always better than 1 thing

http://www.aminoapps.com/page/pokemon/2860060/living-with-a-double-weakness-grass



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Einsam_Delphin said:
burninmylight said:
I don't understand why everybody thinks a Pokemon staying monotype is a bad thing. A diverse and expansive movepool is better than having two types.

 

Tell that to Serperior! I guess it's not necessarily a bad thing, but dual-types are just more interesting naturally.

 

Luke888 said:

The Burrowing Owl just to make an example is an Owl used to set into burrows underground making it a prime candidate for a possible Grass/Ground evolution for Rowlet, if GF decides to make it partially underground (see diglett) or simply stand on the land because it becomes fat to rappresent it's bulk it can easily mantain it wings while shifting from Grass/Flying to Grass/Ground. I think they are 99% likely to not be related to the final typings because they could simply be there for another reason, say Rowlet's final evo is Grass/Flying, then on his page as a description they might underline how it's typing is immune to ground, same could go for Popplio if it became Fairy saying that it's attacks are supereffective against fighting types. I NEVER said that the color black means poison, I said that the Pokédex description and that the Sulfur sign on Litten's head point in the direction of him beeing a Fire/Poison. I'm shure that Fire type fans (like me) would prefer a regular Fire type with only 3 weakneses over a Grass/Flying or Grass/Ground with plenty of other weakneses (and the Ice one beeing x4)

 

Alright, there is that, but I don't see what makes it a prime canidate over other types of owls. And yes that's what I mean, it'd require a drastic and (going by your examples) silly inferior change in appearance to make sense. That's simply unlikely, especially for a starter. Even more unlikely and outlandish is your reasoning for those images being on the site. They're with and numbered the same as the starter type images, and there's only two of them. Common sense from there. Granted, while odds are extremely slim, I can't say your reasoning is flat out impossible, but you're clinging to the most unlikely scenarios. Also you said 99% it'll be Poison, which means you're saying there's basically no chance of it being anything else.

Talking about Silli inferior changes in appearance you know who else got one while he seemed to be really cute at it's first stage ? This guy.



Ka-pi96 said:
burninmylight said:
I don't understand why everybody thinks a Pokemon staying monotype is a bad thing. A diverse and expansive movepool is better than having two types.

Because 2 things are always better than 1 thing

I wouldn't say so, many people think that getting a second STAB is worth gaining a couple more weakneses but it really depeds, Pyroar and Heliolisk don't gain anything from getting the normal STAB, and beeing the fighting type more common than the ghost one the gained immunity doesn't fill the void made by the added weakness...



Rowlet will most likely stay as a flying type there has only been 1 other starter that from the start had a dual typing and that was Bulbasaur and he stays dual typing in it's final evo., also don't take the lines on Litten head as a sulfur sign and that it's final evo. will be poison because of it since the lines on his head might just be the lines that tiger would've since the Fire type starters all represent the Chinese calendar and the only animals missing are tiger,goat,horse,rabbit,snake and ox and since Litten looks like a kitten a tiger has his final evo. seems very likely, so this "leak" might be true but don't be too sure of anything until it's confirmed



Einsam_Delphin said:
burninmylight said:
I don't understand why everybody thinks a Pokemon staying monotype is a bad thing. A diverse and expansive movepool is better than having two types.

 

Tell that to Serperior! I guess it's not necessarily a bad thing, but dual-types are just more interesting naturally.

 

Serperior's monotyping actually makes it a decent tank, because it's not taking on a ton more weaknesses like other grass types. Look at this list:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Grass_%28type%29

Almost all of the dual-Grass types that aren't half Poison have at least one 2x weakness. Meanwhile, what's the dual typing doing for them on offense? Diddly squat.

Parasect is Bug-Grass: two double weaknesses, six in total, and Bug-Grass gives horrible coverage (can't do a thing to Flying, Poison or Steel)

Chesnaught and Breloom: double weak to Flying, both STABs can't do a thing to Flying, Poison or Bug. More horrible coverage.

Venusaur and other Grass/Poison: They tend to depend highly on status moves, but Can't do crap to Steel and Poison if they're not carrying Sleep Powder/Stun Spore, can't use status on other Grass types except Toxic, and get completley walled by other Grass/Poison.

Even the best dual-type out there not named Mega Venusaur, Ferrothorn, has a double weakness to Fire. Most people who play competitively don't bother to give it both STABs either.



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Luke888 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Because 2 things are always better than 1 thing

I wouldn't say so, many people think that getting a second STAB is worth gaining a couple more weakneses but it really depeds, Pyroar and Heliolisk don't gain anything from getting the normal STAB, and beeing the fighting type more common than the ghost one the gained immunity doesn't fill the void made by the added weakness...

Well said. Charizard didn't gain any huge advantages by gaining wings. It's second STAB is still resisted by Rock, overlaps with Grass and Bug, and guess what? Stealth Rock.



Ka-pi96 said:
TheLegendofDS said:

Rowlet will most likely stay as a flying type there has only been 1 other starter that from the start had a dual typing and that was Bulbasaur and he stays dual typing in it's final evo., also don't take the lines on Litten head as a sulfur sign and that it's final evo. will be poison because of it since the lines on his head might just be the lines that tiger would've since the Fire type starters all represent the Chinese calendar and the only animals missing are tiger,goat,horse,rabbit,snake and ox and since Litten looks like a kitten a tiger has his final evo. seems very likely, so this "leak" might be true but don't be too sure of anything until it's confirmed

huh, a fire snake starter could be pretty awesome. Hurry up with gen 8 please GameFreak!

Although that said I don't really buy that theory. I mean, Fennekin is a fox, not a dog

That theory is garbage and has been debunked since Gen 2. Cyndaquil is not a freaking rat.



Ka-pi96 said:

huh, a fire snake starter could be pretty awesome. Hurry up with gen 8 please GameFreak!

Although that said I don't really buy that theory. I mean, Fennekin is a fox, not a dog

Well foxes are related to dogs so it technically counts



Grass types are better off being monotypes. The only dual type grass pokemon used in competitive gaming are gimmick pokemon that can tank or attack specific common enemies like Ferrothorn, Breloom or Amoonguss. And Megavenusaur because of his decents stats and only 2 weaknesses...And that's it, add Serperior and that's all the grass types used in the most common of tiers.

As of now Rowlet is going to be garbage simply because of his too many weaknesses to very common types of attacks. I really hope he loses his flying side of things. If you truly love him, don't let him fly. It's for his own good. *sad music*



Ka-pi96 said:
Jpcc86 said:
Grass types are better off being monotypes. The only dual type grass pokemon used in competitive gaming are gimmick pokemon that can tank or attack specific common enemies like Ferrothorn, Breloom or Amoonguss. And Megavenusaur because of his decents stats and only 2 weaknesses...And that's it, add Serperior and that's all the grass types used in the most common of tiers.

As of now Rowlet is going to be garbage simply because of his too many weaknesses to very common types of attacks. I really hope he loses his flying side of things. If you truly love him, don't let him fly. It's for his own good. *sad music*

What if he got Thick Fat as a hidden ability? No more fire weakness and only a 2x ice weakness.

That'd actually be great.  The x4 weakness against Ice is what really makes him an easy target IMO. 

He'd still be weak to Stealth Rock but theres ways around that I suppose.