I have a feeling both games will be kinda bad. But Battlefield 1 is in a more interesting setting, doesnt actually make it better. Both games are overrun by DLC and season passes that i probably skip both

The dlc for battlefield is well worth paying for premium.  And we also gone a lot of free dlc.  The base game without the dlc is also superb.  If you're a shooter fan you're crazy to skip battlefield. Like skip it for what?  There's not much better out there in the genre. 

Probably passing on both as both franchises are a far cry from their franchises prime and both are overrun with shitty tactics by their shitty publishers. Also I don't think it's much of a surprise that BF1 fared better on Youtube, I haven't bothered to check in awhile but BF used to crap all over CoD on Youtube fandom. Of course, on sales day it was a different story.

I'd expect this to be much of the same. CoD will sell better, probably by a lot.

Actually I think it's exactly the opposite, the casuals ran early, but BF4 (and 3) have had the best long term support I've seen for a modern FPS by a pretty solid margin. TONS of free added content, maps, patches, yadda/etc. The amount of content available for BF4 is kind of staggering.

IIRC, the launch issues weren't so much Dice as it was the publisher cramming the game into a profitable release window a little before it was ready. For myself, it was fairly playable at launch, and I rarely encountered any trouble much beyond a couple of months whatsoever.

SWB 2015 was a pass for me personally simply because it was quite clear from the betas and material for the game that it was absolutely a casual-oriented game. Not that I think there's anything wrong with that, it just wasn't my idea of fun.

Anyway, who knows how CoD and BF play out this year. I expect minor recession on CoD, and minor growth to mainline BF, but nothing earth-shattering like the H5 spiral.

I'd like to echo this.  I completely agree regarding the sales.  Battlefield will probably go up a little and cod come down a little. There will still be a big gap.  

And yeah bf4 was bad at launch but as you say that was greedy EA rushing it out for the ps4 launch before it was ready.  Dice wrongly took the hit from a lot of fans. 

But since they fixed it,  bf4 has become the premier online shooter this gen.  What an excellent game. 

In the end Call of Duty will beat Battlefield again (it's always the same)...

Both games will be bad, especially Battlefield 1, which will be ridden with glitches and bugs. Both games will sell loads, especially the very hated Infinite Warfare. Nothing will change.

Don't forget about the shitty Star Wars Battlefront.

CoD is cool to hate on the Internet. A lot of the stuff people complain about Activision doing with CoD (microtransactions, quick unlock DLC, cosmetic DLC, day one DLC, preorder exclusive DLC, retailer exclusive DLC, expensive DLC, shitty campaign, unbalanced MP) among others, are all things BF has been guilty of for a long time before CoD started incorporating them. That's probably why us nerds on the Internets raise such a stink about how much BF rules and CoD drools yet on sales day CoD trounces BF every year.

I'm legitimately worried about Titanfall 2 being infected with EA's many diseases.

just look at battlefront vs blops 3.

And that was fckn star wars in episode 7 in the back.

COD will sell more.

Battlefront was and still is awesome star wars game.  Titanfall on the other hand was like cod with mechs.  Massive meh especially with the lack of actually players online.  So agreed on that,  I'd be really worried about titanfall 2. 

But Battlefield 4 and battlefront are excellent games.