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Arkaign said:
Acevil said:

Surprised people love Dice as much as they do after Battlefield 4 horrible launch bullshit. Guess casual fans are more forgiving. 

Actually I think it's exactly the opposite, the casuals ran early, but BF4 (and 3) have had the best long term support I've seen for a modern FPS by a pretty solid margin. TONS of free added content, maps, patches, yadda/etc. The amount of content available for BF4 is kind of staggering.

IIRC, the launch issues weren't so much Dice as it was the publisher cramming the game into a profitable release window a little before it was ready. For myself, it was fairly playable at launch, and I rarely encountered any trouble much beyond a couple of months whatsoever.

SWB 2015 was a pass for me personally simply because it was quite clear from the betas and material for the game that it was absolutely a casual-oriented game. Not that I think there's anything wrong with that, it just wasn't my idea of fun.

Anyway, who knows how CoD and BF play out this year. I expect minor recession on CoD, and minor growth to mainline BF, but nothing earth-shattering like the H5 spiral.

I'd like to echo this.  I completely agree regarding the sales.  Battlefield will probably go up a little and cod come down a little. There will still be a big gap.  

 

And yeah bf4 was bad at launch but as you say that was greedy EA rushing it out for the ps4 launch before it was ready.  Dice wrongly took the hit from a lot of fans. 

 

But since they fixed it,  bf4 has become the premier online shooter this gen.  What an excellent game.