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SuaveSocialist on 16 May 2016
Lawlight said:
Runa216 said:

You don't really understand how RottenTomatoes works, do you?  It's not about how GOOD the movie is, but how successfully it did what it was supposed to. 

By your metric, you're trying to say that Zootopia was a better film than The Dark  Knight.  While I adore both films, it'd be foolish to assume that Zootopia is better than The Dark Knight.  Couple that with the fact that Spy Kids (the first one) was actually a pretty great movie in its own right and the fact that film Criticism was different back in, what, 2004 when it came out?  things change.  Times change. We get more perspective and we get harder on all forms of media.  

There's more to a film's quality than its RottenTomatoes score.  That number simply shows a vague representation of how many people liked it at that time, it's not a perrenial ranking system.  Stop being dense just to prove your faulty point. 

And what point is that?

The truth is that critics (the number of which is proportional to its time of release) recommend Spy Kids more than they would recommend Civil War. That's if you believe in the RT system. I don't since I don't think critics are just opinions among millions of others and are more prone to bias than regular users (non-fanboys).

False.  To date, Spy Kids only has 126 reviews averaging at 7.2; Civil War has 297 reviews averaging at 7.6.  At the time when Civil War had 126 reviews, it had a 94 rating from critics vs the 93 Spy Kids presently has.  Furthermore, Spy Kids only pulls a 46% approval from the Audience averaging a 2.6, whereas Civil War has a 91 averaging 4.4.

I know that you REALLY, really want to craft a Strawman Argument here, but a cursory glance at the review scores objectively disproves your claim that Spy Kids is better received on RT than Civil War.  It is a very poor attempt at a Strawman.

Now, do try to stay on topic.  This is Civil War surpassing BvS (you know, those two superhero Versus Movies released by rival companies targeting the same audience and within 2 months of one another?) as the topic; not Civil War surpassing Spy Kids.  



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binary solo on 16 May 2016

I liked Civil War better than BvS, but I liked BvS all right. So I'm happy to see both movies doing well, and IMO it's right that Civil War is ahead.

Now we just need the trifecta of X-Men doing well.

Then of course I really want to se Dr. Strange do well. That's a risky proposition (totally unkown character outside of the MC fanbase) and if Disney/Marvel pull it off it's gonna be party time with the bean counters.



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sabastian on 16 May 2016

Batman V Superman is the better movie IMO.

Civil War 6/10
BvS 8/10



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Okie_Loki on 16 May 2016

Again, totally expected. What WASN'T expected was BvS grossing less than $900 million. At this rate it'll probably finish somewhere around $875 million. If I were WB I'd consider releasing the extended cut in theaters to try and draw some people in who were at first not sure about seeing it.
Let's all be honest here, CW had far more AND better marketing. I saw a handful of commercials for BvS prior to its release. For CW I saw one every time I went on the Internet and tv. And let's not forget the reviews. The reviews trashed BvS (rightfully or not, I won't argue here) and turned a LOT of people away. PLUS, while we can argue that the Trinity has been around longer and is arguably more popular worldwide (historically at least), let's be real: this was the 13th movie in the MCU. That ensemble cast has grown dedictated fan followings. People went JUST to see the new Spidey, for example.
That's why I think WB is trying too hard to be different by launching the JL so soon. There hasn't been any time to develop these characters. No one is attached to any of them, exception Batman because... Batman.



method114 on 16 May 2016

Wow I didn't realize BVS didn't surpass 1bil I thought that was a given.



Solid-Stark on 16 May 2016

And Civil War is still going. It should end up with 350m+ above BvsS



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Lawlight on 16 May 2016
SuaveSocialist said:
Lawlight said:

And what point is that?

The truth is that critics (the number of which is proportional to its time of release) recommend Spy Kids more than they would recommend Civil War. That's if you believe in the RT system. I don't since I don't think critics are just opinions among millions of others and are more prone to bias than regular users (non-fanboys).

False.  To date, Spy Kids only has 126 reviews averaging at 7.2; Civil War has 297 reviews averaging at 7.6.  At the time when Civil War had 126 reviews, it had a 94 rating from critics vs the 93 Spy Kids presently has.  Furthermore, Spy Kids only pulls a 46% approval from the Audience averaging a 2.6, whereas Civil War has a 91 averaging 4.4.

I know that you REALLY, really want to craft a Strawman Argument here, but a cursory glance at the review scores objectively disproves your claim that Spy Kids is better received on RT than Civil War.  It is a very poor attempt at a Strawman.

Now, do try to stay on topic.  This is Civil War surpassing BvS (you know, those two superhero Versus Movies released by rival companies targeting the same audience and within 2 months of one another?) as the topic; not Civil War surpassing Spy Kids.  

No need to cook up any argument since my "at the time of release" was about the total number of reviews which was lower back then than now. In any case, Spy Kids has a higher approval rating than Civil War, which must be confounding if you like RT.

BvS is only the 2nd movie in the DCCU. It'll get there - just like it took forever for the MCU to get to $800M+ movies.

But Disney wil be disappointed in CW's performance.



ninjapirate42 on 16 May 2016
Solid-Stark said:
And Civil War is still going. It should end up with 350m+ above BvsS

I think so. I think it will finish at about 1.35 which would give it close to 500m above BvS.