Please elaborate.

I do agree that online will be an issue, I don't see it as worse though. No third party support seems obviously worse unless they replicate the Wii. Thats a massive"If". What gimmick can they use to sell systems? This is something that all the big 3 spend RnD looking into and it can't just be forced as an alternative to having decent power. VR is too expensive, touch screen doesn't appear a system seller, motion controls seem dead outside of VR.

Simply being cheaper is not a solution either, as shown by the Gamecube and Wii U (Niether systems had equal third party support to sony though).

This is why producing a traditional console is safe, today multiplats are the norm and unlike the Wii U, NX isn't arriving at the end of a generation, being obsolete from day 1.

None of this is based off my expectation BTW, I was simply correcting your statement that Nintendo has rarely  found success with powerful home consoles. Wii is their only home console that has succeeded whilst being weak. As I mentioned in my first post, I beleive they will equal modern consoles  (or slightly surpass them) and feature a gimmick.

what you just said basically supports what Rol and I said, a platform that can supply a constant stream of high quality Nintendo games is more important that releasing a platform that can recieve ports of PS/XB games.

Ignoring the fact that operating income will in all likelihood increase in FY16, I don't buy that Sony's 86 Billion "aren't too high" while Nintendo "is aiming for big profits" of 100 Billion.

And Nintendo isn't aiming for big profits in the context that they sell loads more first party software than Sony, own the biggest gaming IPs in the world which they can exploit on mobile and on consoles, and that they intend to sell the NX at a profit. Touché.

A console that can do both is ideal. Nintendo aren't going to regress from the Wii U's power, so as long as they're developing HD games their Dev cycles will pretty much be the same length as if they were working with cutting edge tech. Pretty sure Zelda has been in development longer than Uncharted 4. And games like unravel are cheaper then Yoshi's Yarn. 

And revenue from mobile if I'm not mistaken.

Well... I could always mention amiibo and piss a few people off in the process, but you know I'm too nice to do that

Coming from you, I'll assume that "good job" remark is a genuine one. You have trained me well. Also, you gave him the easy way out. I didn't want to have you elaborate, I wanted him to elaborate. But fine, I'll try to get it back on track (though I'm not sure if you even want it to).

@Question in title, no the NX does not need to be [more] powerful [than the PS4] as long as they don't sell it at a ridiculous price [like the Wii U], and as long as they don't sell it at a loss. More than any other stupid mistakes Nintendo did with the Wii U, launching at a high price and selling the hardware at a loss was what killed the console and hurt Nintendo in the process. Same goes for the 3DS, but to a smaller extent. If they can get that right, they can reach a higher userbase, for which they can sell their aforementioned super high margin 1st party software, all without having a lossleading strategy on the hardware.

NX with PS4-level specs at 249$. Seems good to me.

You don't patent a codename, you patent the concepts behind the codename which heavily hint as a home console. The patents that have been filed are in NIntendo's name and for their use.

The NX wasn't even mentioned when Square Enix was talking about the 3DS version. It was mentioned when they were talking about the PS4 version. Did you even watch the Dragon Quest XI conference?

XCX is a one in a million chance, and using these types of scenarios for your argument is faulty. This type of porting isn't practical and it's why it's never really done. You can't mix the capabilities of handhelds and consoles together. They are two entirely separate beasts. Of course a game made specifically for a console will run better on that console than a underpowered handheld. The NEW 3DS, not 3DS like you mentioned has upgrades that make it comparable to Wii, not really practical for porting Wii games but it can be done.

Who's to say Nintendo consoles can't be in the upper price range? If they change their hardware choices to include a blu-ray player, and have up to par graphics...that'd basically be a PS4. Nintendo used to have the more expensive console, it wasn't until other companies included other media apps and players that development costs increased, thus an increase in price. You can make a PS4 comparable system and sell it for $300 now. I'd pay 400 for a Nintendo console so long as it's modern.

I do agree that Nintendo makes most of its profit off software and a low price hardware brings down that barrier to entry, but it's possible to have a moderately priced console and sell a killer amount of software. The PS4 and GTAV as one example. People will pay for a good game console with good games. Nintendo's own fanbase as of now has dwindeld down because of their lack of the ability to be modern. The NX needs 3rd parties to survive successfully. It's been the downfall of every great company. If you don't have 3rd party support, which is directly related to how your console performs power/sales wise, your console is sunk. i.e. Dreamcast, Saturn, Atari5200 and 7800, Gamegear, Lynx, 32X, Jaguar, and now Wii U.

Nintendo can hit hard, and they have. But they could hit harder with hardware that caters to everyone, while maintaining a modest price which is what the PS4 is doing and why it's sold 40 Million over Wii U's 13 Million with a 1 year headstart. I understand how Nintendo has operated in the past but things change and if Nintendo isn't willing to adopt industry standards, they minds well pack up their hardware business.