Going from a mid-end 2012 video card to a high-end 2012 video card is more exciting to people then a new console with completely new games?
Remember PS4 Neo has no extra exclusives that aren't coming out on the normal PS4.
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Yeah... NX | 151 | 37.66% | |
PS4 Neo is the future | 219 | 54.61% | |
Kinect | 31 | 7.73% | |
Total: | 401 |
Going from a mid-end 2012 video card to a high-end 2012 video card is more exciting to people then a new console with completely new games?
Remember PS4 Neo has no extra exclusives that aren't coming out on the normal PS4.
Soundwave said:
Yeah I agree. The PS4-XB1 audience will likely be about the same size as the PS3-360 ... just with Sony getting a jump on MS this team and eating the 360 audience. I know plenty of 360 owners who have a PS4 instead this gen. But Wii ... that was huge for my demographic (20+ years old) of people who owned a Wii *only* none of them have bought any kind of a console, I even tried to bring a few of them over and we played Wii U together and they enjoyed it generally ... but buy another console? Nope. Wii was a one time/once in a lifetime type craze, I think people just need to accept that. Trying to create/or channel the Wii is akin to saying "lets make a new Pokemon" or "lets take that Pokemon audience" in a long term sense is ... not happening. |
I know a few people who bought Wii, but only one person who wasn't there just for the waggle fad. That one person is now a Wii U owner. The others have all dumped console gaming, because they were never really gamers in the first place and Wii didn't make them gamers.
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not really a bold statement by Nintendo- What else would you expect them to say?
Soundwave said:
Yeah I agree. The PS4-XB1 audience will likely be about the same size as the PS3-360 ... just with Sony getting a jump on MS this team and eating the 360 audience. I know plenty of 360 owners who have a PS4 instead this gen. But Wii ... that was huge for my demographic (20+ years old) of people who owned a Wii *only* none of them have bought any kind of a console, I even tried to bring a few of them over and we played Wii U together and they enjoyed it generally ... but buy another console? Nope. Wii was a one time/once in a lifetime type craze, I think people just need to accept that. Trying to create/or channel the Wii is akin to saying "lets make a new Pokemon" or "lets take that Pokemon audience" in a long term sense is ... not happening. |
Bottom line, I can believe your anecdotal evidence or I can believe Andrew House and his data. No offense but I'm going with Andrew.
You can believe what you want, obviously, but for me the argument is over unless you have something with more substance.
pokoko said:
Bottom line, I can believe your anecdotal evidence or I can believe Andrew House and his data. No offense but I'm going with Andrew. You can believe what you want, obviously, but for me the argument is over unless you have something with more substance. |
The quote you provided doesn't even provide any firm data. I'm sure Sony would "like" to have some of the Wii audience, who wouldn't, but there's no firm data given there and it's a fairly wishy-washy statement.
If Sony has any success gaining any notable portion of the Wii userbase, they should have little problem selling more than 150 or even 200 million given the audience they already had and while the PS4 is selling well it's not selling so far ahead of say the PS2 to suggest that.
What we're seeing is overall console sales for this gen are way down ... and that's largely because a big chunk of the Wii-only audience isn't there anymore.
Last gen we saw 105 million Wiis, 85 million for 360, 86-87 million for PS3 ... this gen is not going to be even close to that.
I don't have faith in the NX :O.
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Soundwave said:
The quote you provided doesn't even provide any firm data. I'm sure Sony would "like" to have some of the Wii audience, who wouldn't, but there's no firm data given there and it's a fairly wishy-washy statement. If Sony has any success gaining any notable portion of the Wii userbase, they should have little problem selling more than 150 or even 200 million given the audience they already had and while the PS4 is selling well it's not selling so far ahead of say the PS2 to suggest that. What we're seeing is overall console sales for this gen are way down ... and that's largely because a big chunk of the Wii-only audience isn't there anymore. Last gen we saw 105 million Wiis, 85 million for 360, 86-87 million for PS3 ... this gen is not going to be even close to that. |
PS4 + Xbox One are far, far ahead of the PS3 + Xbox 360. Like 20M ahead, or so. You're telling me those are all new gamers? That because everyone who owned a Wii--and their kids--were all hipsters, none of them has moved on to the PS4?
That doesn't even make sense.
TheGoldenBoy said: It's a new console; it should be more "relevant" than a hardware upgrade like the PS4 Neo. It would be somewhat pathetic if the reverse ends up being true. |
Came in to say this.
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Yeah, because the gaming market has shown time and time again that it wants something completely new instead of something old that is improved.
No one ever wanted a new Zelda, Star Fox, Metroid, Smash, Pokemon, 3D Mario, Mario Kart and *insert any old IP here*. All they wanted was a tablet controller. Because revolution is inherently better than evolution.
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