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Soundwave said:
binary solo said:

I think it's highly likely that PS4+Xb one LTD ends up equal to or less than PS3+X360 LTD. So that kind of begs the question whether any more than a relative handful who only had a Wii last gen have jumped across to PS4. I think it's more likely that Wii owners who went PS4 this gen actually made an intermediate jump to PS3, or, more likely, 360 (with Kinect) late in the 7th gen. Last gen went long enough that kids who got Wii at 8-11 years old would have been able to convinve their parent to get them a PS3 or 360 because enough time had passed without the generation coming to an end. At least half of the people (IMO, based on no actual data) who bought Wii have completely exited the console scene. 

Yeah I agree. The PS4-XB1 audience will likely be about the same size as the PS3-360 ... just with Sony getting a jump on MS this team and eating the 360 audience.

I know plenty of 360 owners who have a PS4 instead this gen. But Wii ... that was huge for my demographic (20+ years old) of people who owned a Wii *only* none of them have bought any kind of a console, I even tried to bring a few of them over and we played Wii U together and they enjoyed it generally ... but buy another console?

Nope.

Wii was a one time/once in a lifetime type craze, I think people just need to accept that. Trying to create/or channel the Wii is akin to saying "lets make a new Pokemon" or "lets take that Pokemon audience" in a long term sense is ... not happening.

Bottom line, I can believe your anecdotal evidence or I can believe Andrew House and his data.  No offense but I'm going with Andrew.

You can believe what you want, obviously, but for me the argument is over unless you have something  with more substance.