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This is all easier said than done.

I don't agree. I don't think the NX has any chance whatoever aside from beeing aimed at the casual market as the Wii was.
I believe it is impossible for Nintendo to capture the semi-hardcore audience at this point in time. For them to do that it requires meticulous planning and timing.



hoala said:

Many got that system, played some wii sports and mario kart but after just few month they never used the system again.

What is this statement based on? There is literally nothing to support this idea and for some reason people say it all the time.



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The casual market is fairly hard for the NX to seriously crack.

Apple/Google are stronger competition than even Sony/MS at this point.

They can't be beaten on price (free) or accessibility (everyone has a smartphone) or ease of use (3 years olds play smartphone games, hoardes of women play smartphone games), part and parcel why Nintendo bent and decided to cash in on the app market, knowing they couldn't win a fight against it.



Nem said:

This is all easier said than done.

I don't agree. I don't think the NX has any chance whatoever aside from beeing aimed at the casual market as the Wii was.
I believe it is impossible for Nintendo to capture the semi-hardcore audience at this point in time. For them to do that it requires meticulous planning and timing.

well i think its impossible to catch the casual audience at this time. They have their smartphones, they are fine. They are not gonna buy a console anytime soon



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hoala said:

LipeJJ said:

Yes, I've seen it. Just disagree with some other points. But anyway, I hope that's the case, and that would definitely change your gaming experience. Your full open world Zelda with pretty graphics could be experienced on the bus, or on the bathroom (and also the other way around) . That's game changing; so far portable games have been similar to 2005 games.

Well we already have 3d zelda games on mobile devices (ocarina of time and majoras mask) so its really just about the graphics.

With the PsVita and Remoteplay you can even play games like witcher 3 in the bus (with remote play).

With Gaming-laptops you can play games like Witcher 3 nativly on the go.

Thats why its more an evolution (at least for me) but that may be different difinition of the word gimmick ;)

We do, but you can't compare limited games from 1998, like Ocarina of Time, with what we have currently (like The Witcher or Skyrim). it's really not just the graphics... it's the scope, it's the size, it's much better animations, it's better performance which directly affects gameplay, it's better Artificial Inteligence, and so on... so it really changes how you play.

About notebooks/laptops... it's really not the same thing. They are not dedicated gaming machines and it's not like their size is so small you can carry around in your pockets. Like... have you ever seen someone just pulling out his/her laptop on the train to play Dark Souls III? 



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hoala said:
Nem said:

This is all easier said than done.

I don't agree. I don't think the NX has any chance whatoever aside from beeing aimed at the casual market as the Wii was.
I believe it is impossible for Nintendo to capture the semi-hardcore audience at this point in time. For them to do that it requires meticulous planning and timing.

well i think its impossible to catch the casual audience at this time. They have their smartphones, they are fine. They are not gonna buy a console anytime soon

That depends on what it is. But it does go to my statement that i think its doomed to failure. If its a home console that is.

Actually i think it is one of Nintendo's worst mistakes. It will be the Dreamcast all over again bar the innovations most probably.

But hey... maybe it really is something completely different like Nintendo said.



LipeJJ said:

We do, but you can't compare limited games from 1998, like Ocarina of Time, with what we have currently (like The Witcher or Skyrim). it's really not just the graphics... it's the scope, it's the size, it's much better animations, it's better performance which directly affects gameplay, it's better Artificial Inteligence, and so on... so it really changes how you play.

About notebooks/laptops... it's really not the same thing. They are not dedicated gaming machines and it's not like their size is so small you can carry around in your pockets. Like... have you ever seen someone just pulling out his/her laptop on the train to play Dark Souls III? 

Well the only pruprose of those gaming notebooks it to play portable. Otherwhise nobody would buy them (they are much more expensive then a destkop PC and have less power in general). Sure they might not be AS portable as an handheld, but they are portable devices as well and there are customers who buy them.

In terms of games scope and co, well we have xenoblade on new 3ds. That might not be a witcher 3, but in terms of the open world it comes close.



Nem said:

That depends on what it is. But it does go to my statement that i think its doomed to failure. If its a home console that is.

Actually i think it is one of Nintendo's worst mistakes. It will be the Dreamcast all over again bar the innovations most probably.

But hey... maybe it really is something completely different like Nintendo said.

Well even if nintendo manages to make something that work and casuals will buy it, that wont help them in the long run. The gimmick will be copies fast and what next gen? You cant pull out an awesome innovation every new gen. And Nintendo is an Gaming only company, they need to sell their hardware and software and relying just on gimmicks wont work forever.



It needs two features to be a success:

1. Low price

2. Games

That's it.



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