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RolStoppable said:
KLXVER said:

They could still launch the console holiday 2016. If consoles sell well then. Waiting 4 months for more games wouldnt be so bad.

At the moment Nintendo's priorities are most likely to avoid repeating the same mistakes as with the Wii U. Extended droughts for first party software are at the top of that list, hence no holiday 2016 launch. I think this is less about launch software than it is about the first half of 2017. Zelda would ensure a good 2016 launch, but that's not good enough when it's followed by a few months of emptiness in the release schedule. So NX gets delayed to avoid what happened to the Wii U. Nintendo will not want NX to get a negative reputation right from the outset, so the delay is the lesser evil between the two options.

Agreed, Rayman Legends, Lego City, Pikmin 3, Game & Wario, Wonderful 101, Wii Fit U were all originally planned for launch window (by March 31, 2013) yet only one of those 6 games released on time giving Wii U an awful lineup in the first half of 2013.



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Einsam_Delphin said:
KLXVER said:

Most of the things he says could be true in the case of a holiday 2017 release.

 

Except Zelda since it was obviously delayed to coincide with NX.

Or was it delayed to coincide with the 30th anniversary of the franchise? Then Nintendo thought "Hmmmm lets just put it on the NX at the same time as the WiiU"



KLXVER said:

Or was it delayed to coincide with the 30th anniversary of the franchise? Then Nintendo thought "Hmmmm lets just put it on the NX at the same time as the WiiU"

 

Man you are really desperate, using any and all possibilities that support your front, no matter illogical or just plain nonsensical they are.



Einsam_Delphin said:
KLXVER said:

Or was it delayed to coincide with the 30th anniversary of the franchise? Then Nintendo thought "Hmmmm lets just put it on the NX at the same time as the WiiU"

 

Man you are really desperate, using any and all possibilities that support your front, no matter illogical or just plain nonsensical they are.

Im just saying its possible. Just like you.



Hiku said:
KLXVER said:

Many companies would jump on the chance. Capcom still has the final say if they want to accept what they are offered or not.

Shares = Capcom. If I own 0.00001% of a company, that's how much my vote would be worth, if I was potentially at a table. And that's the reason those meetings are limited to the majority shareholders whos decisions actually hold weight.
If the firm itself happens to have over 50.1% of the shares, they can have the majority ruling in their favor in any situation. We don't know exactly how it is in Nintendo, but whatever the case was with Capcom, the majority of shareholders were open for an outside buy out.

Either way, my point was that there's no reason to not inform major shareholders during shareholder meetings, and that major shareholders have a certain say in things. It generally equates to their amount of shares.
And even if the firm itself owns the majority of the shares, that doesn't mean that keeping the others unhappy is always free of consequence.

Only way to keep shareholders happy is to make them money. Many of them probably dont even play video games.



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Hiku said:

I didn't say it was simply owning stock. I said "control stock", refering to major shareholders.
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/controlstock.asp

I also didn't say they were required to tell their major shareholders any time they get a new idea. But there have been quite a few shareholder meetings since Nintendo first announced the NX project. If you are a serious company, you make sure your majority shareholders are informed of relevant information during your shareholder meetings.

Major shareholders in a company don't neccessarily have controlling stock, for example one major shareholder in Coca Cola holds something like a 2% stake in the company which is nowhere near enough to exert control. Each company as far as stocks go has a different situation.

The meetings match up with the timing reports like earnings happen, companies often notify major shareholders beforehand when to expect meetings and reports regardless.



Hiku said:
Wyrdness said:

Major shareholders in a company don't neccessarily have controlling stock, for example one major shareholder in Coca Cola holds something like a 2% stake in the company which is nowhere near enough to exert control. Each company as far as stocks go has a different situation.

The meetings match up with the timing reports like earnings happen, companies often notify major shareholders beforehand when to expect meetings and reports regardless.

Yeah, they don't neccesarily have controlling stock. I don't know how it works in Nintendo exactly, but that was an example of how it can work.
Either way, the point was the value in keeping major investors informed on business decisions relevant to their earnings. For whatever reason those specific investors are sitting at the table, telling them when Nintendo expects to make a profit on major projects is definitely of outmost interest to everyone involved.

They give them the information they need for the upcoming quarter. They wont give them updates on stuff a year in advance.



Exhibit A, Zelda Wii U explicitly stated to be a 2016 release by Nintendo as recently as 6 months ago. Exhibit B, Zelda Wii U delayed to March 2017. Xzibit C, NX launching in March 2017 "to make sure there are games to go along with the NX."

It stands to reason if Zelda was originally planned to release in 2016, then the system it is serving as a launch title for was also planned to release in 2016.

You can call it whatever you want, I don't need to use the "d" word. Nintendo planned to launch NX this year, but decided against it because they didn't have enough games ready. This was all but confirmed in the Q&A. The rest is just semantics.



KLXVER said:

Im just saying its possible. Just like you.

 

Not like me, I'm not relying on any random possibility even if it has a 0.1% chance of being true just so I can keep posting, only the ones that hold weight and make the most sense thus are most likely to be true do I back.



the_dengle said:

Exhibit A, Zelda Wii U explicitly stated to be a 2016 release by Nintendo as recently as 6 months ago. Exhibit B, Zelda Wii U delayed to March 2017. Xzibit C, NX launching in March 2017 "to make sure there are games to go along with the NX."

It stands to reason if Zelda was originally planned to release in 2016, then the system it is serving as a launch title for was also planned to release in 2016.

You can call it whatever you want, I don't need to use the "d" word. Nintendo planned to launch NX this year, but decided against it because they didn't have enough games ready. This was all but confirmed in the Q&A. The rest is just semantics.

Again it could be that ZeldaU was delayed to 2016 because its the 30th anniversary of the franchise. Maybe Zelda was supposed to come out for the WiiU first and then the NX 1 year later with added content and upgraded graphics. Then Nintendo realized that they wouldnt have enough games to cover the lead up to the NX, so they moved the launch to March 2017 and some WiiU games we dont know about yet got moved to the NX instead. Also what was Nintendo supposed to say? "We moved the NX from a holiday 2017 release to a March 2017 release because......hmmmm....we wanted less games for the launch?"