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Soundwave on 28 April 2016
SvennoJ said:
Soundwave said:

I would love to use remote play on the Wii U ... it was a feature when announced I thought I would use a lot buuuuuuut ...

The Wii U gamepad screen is a cheap piece of crap. It's literally a worse quality screen than even $70 no name kids tablets I see at Best Buy. It's a screen like something from a 2002-era portable DVD player that a grandma would use. I don't know how Nintendo even finds components this shitty, it's like they go back in time to special order them.

I didn't play through 6 years of the Wii with miserable muddy low resolution SD on an HDTV to now not enjoy HD graphics on the Wii U, so I basically play all the time on the HDTV. I can't go back to SD resolution, which is what the Wii U tablet screen basically is.

Downsampled to 540p makes 720p look better than upscaled to 1080p :p Higher than a portable dvd player anyway.
Fast racing NEO was better on the Gamepad than on tv, big mess on tv. And it was perfect for Mario maker.

But true, most games I rather play on the big screen, not just because of the resolution. Screen size and sound are more important. However with Pikmin 3 I found my eyes wander to stay focussed on the gamepad rather than looking up at the tv. It worked better on the gamepad.

Maybe if the WiiU was succesful Nintendo would have launched a GamePadii with 720p screen. Or at least make it so you can use its controls for Wii games that don't need waggle. So stupid you can use the classic controller with tons of Wii games but not the GamePad controls. Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Not by my eye test. Wii U games look great on my HDTV set, so much so that honestly it's not like I go to play PS4 I go like "holy shit! Those Wii U graphics were awful" (this used to happen when I'd go from Wii to PS3/360 though).

When I look down at the graphics on the Wii U controller though ... lol it's a trainwreck. Way worse than the image on the TV. It's not just the resolution, the quality of the Wii U tablet screen itself is just ass. Colors are muted and dull, image quality is fuzzy and soft, etc. etc.

The difference between the image I get on my HDTV set versus the tablet screen is just night and day.



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SvennoJ on 28 April 2016
Soundwave said:

Not by my eye test. Wii U games look great on my HDTV set, so much so that honestly it's not like I go to play PS4 I go like "holy shit! Those Wii U graphics were awful" (this used to happen when I'd go from Wii to PS3/360 though).

When I look down at the graphics on the Wii U controller though ... lol it's a trainwreck. Way worse than the image on the TV. It's not just the resolution, the quality of the Wii U tablet screen itself is just ass. Colors are muted and dull, image quality is fuzzy and soft, etc. etc.

The difference between the image I get on my HDTV set versus the tablet screen is just night and day.

Try cleaning it some time! :p Dunno why it's fuzzy and soft, pixel perfect placement on mario maker was fine on the gamepad.
The picture is kinda dull during the day though, not bright enough. Can't even see it outside :/



Kai_Mao on 28 April 2016
bigtakilla said:
The Wii U will be remembered as a mixed bag by me. It finally had Nintendo tear its walls down to third party developers, and their takes on the franchises could be some of the best ones to date (with Hyrule Warriors, Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE, and Star Fox Zero).

I'll also remember it for being the first console to fully embrace a mature genre with how many hack and slash games their were. Bayo/2, Wonderful 101, Devil's Third, Ninja Gaiden Razor's Edge, Darksiders II, and if you count them Warriors Orochi 3 and Hyrule Warriors.

I'll remember it fondly for having one of the most amazing open world games I ever had the pleasure of playing with Xenoblade X, and though the story seemed smaller in scale, it could just as easily be a series that has one of the biggest and greatest stories to date.

I'll remember it for having some of the greatest entries in their first party ever. Sm4sh is simply unbelievable, and will be the benchmark for every Smash that follows. Mario 3D World is a visual feast in some of its levels, and is all around a master class of game design. Donkey Kong is the best in its series period, Fatal Frame FINALLY got a new game released worldwide post being Nintendo 2nd party, and its actually a scary atmospheric survival horror with tons of content. Then Splatoon... Oh God, it had the world asking themselves if they were a kid or a squid.

Love or hate any of the games mentioned, people would be hard pressed to tell me it wasn't a giant leap in the right direction.

The bad... The ONLY regret I will have of the Wii U is that they could have done so much more with it. It should have had its own Fire Emblem, and exclusive Zelda, and Animal Crossing, and Metroid. They should have pushed for Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers 2 or Bravely U, or a Mega Man after the freak out of his introduction to Sm4sh. That said what they gave us though was generally a blast.

My opinion closely aligns with yours. Although I haven't played all the games you've mentioned, the games I'm playing on Wii U are pretty darn good, even Star Fox Zero. This is coming from someone who just got a Wii U last winter so I've already got my money's worth.

i could also mention the great indie games that released on Wii U along with Virtual Console games such as Earthbound, Earthbound Beginnings, Zelda the Minish Cap, Fire Emblem, etc.

Though what stands out to me is the craziness that is Smash 4. The speculations before and after release have made me almost insane at times because I tend to wonder who would be added next. This game is probably the epitome of AAA crossover events. It'll be hard for any other crossover game to match this.

i personally wish more was done with the gamepad. I like experimental Nintendo and I wished they would've experimented more with the pad to show the unique ways to play and that can't be done with traditional controllers like the Wiimote did.



Danman27 on 28 April 2016

In the long run, nothing. Wiiu had no games that really changed the industry. The wiiu will be a forgotten console.



DivinePaladin on 28 April 2016

It'll be the Dreamcast 2, unless Nintendo ports all the best games to NX. Then it might fade away.



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Nem on 28 April 2016
Ruler said:

it will probably be the last traditional console. Every system from here on out will get better hardware revisions

That is so not gonna happen. 

Its completely opposite of what the console consumer wants. Console gamers want simplicity, not complexity.



johnsobas on 28 April 2016
Mbolibombo said:
johnsobas said:
worst nintendo home console of all time. The top 10 games or so are really good, the library has very little depth and no 3rd party support. It's still a pretty decent system overall if you like your 1st party Nintendo games.

My own unpopular opinion on that topic: That would be the N64. Cant stand it. Even fewer great games than on the Wii U, the worst controller in the history of gaming and worst first party titles of any nintendo console. It made me go to PC games for almost 15 years before turning back to consoles again. Probably not going to get a lot of agreement here on that though hehe.

 

As for the Wii U, I have had lots of fun with it and it has certainly been worth every penny. MK8, Smash, Splatoon, Pikmin 3, Mario 3D World, Mario Maker, Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, Rayman Legends (definite edition), Tropical Freeze, Windwaker (definite edition), Woolly World, XCX are some of my favorite games to come out since 2012 across all systems. Depth is lacking though but there are some great games and solid amount of Indie games as well. Too bad it didnt become more of a hit with more support. I think it will be looked upon like a great system in a few years and will be highly sought after by collectors. Sort of like the Dreamcast.

 

 

i hear you but disagree like most people will.  The N64 was the system that made me get my first non-nintendo system.  It was really good however, i mean if you didn't have a N64 you were really missing out big time.  If you don't have a Wii U this gen...well you are missing out to some extent but not that much.  N64 had depth in the overall library but it had huge holes in certain genres, and that's what made me get the playstation.



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bigtakilla on 29 April 2016
Danman27 said:
In the long run, nothing. Wiiu had no games that really changed the industry. The wiiu will be a forgotten console.

If you don't think Splatoon or Mario Maker has made their mark on the industry, you're vastly underselling them.



Mbolibombo on 29 April 2016
johnsobas said:
Mbolibombo said:

My own unpopular opinion on that topic: That would be the N64. Cant stand it. Even fewer great games than on the Wii U, the worst controller in the history of gaming and worst first party titles of any nintendo console. It made me go to PC games for almost 15 years before turning back to consoles again. Probably not going to get a lot of agreement here on that though hehe.

 

As for the Wii U, I have had lots of fun with it and it has certainly been worth every penny. MK8, Smash, Splatoon, Pikmin 3, Mario 3D World, Mario Maker, Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, Rayman Legends (definite edition), Tropical Freeze, Windwaker (definite edition), Woolly World, XCX are some of my favorite games to come out since 2012 across all systems. Depth is lacking though but there are some great games and solid amount of Indie games as well. Too bad it didnt become more of a hit with more support. I think it will be looked upon like a great system in a few years and will be highly sought after by collectors. Sort of like the Dreamcast.

 

 

i hear you but disagree like most people will.  The N64 was the system that made me get my first non-nintendo system.  It was really good however, i mean if you didn't have a N64 you were really missing out big time.  If you don't have a Wii U this gen...well you are missing out to some extent but not that much.  N64 had depth in the overall library but it had huge holes in certain genres, and that's what made me get the playstation.

It did have some depth for sure, but the controller made them practically unplayable. Good god I hate that trident hehe :>

See you are playing Blaster master, have you beaten it? :> It's a pretty hard game



Mummelmann on 29 April 2016
Nem said:
Ruler said:

it will probably be the last traditional console. Every system from here on out will get better hardware revisions

That is so not gonna happen. 

Its completely opposite of what the console consumer wants. Console gamers want simplicity, not complexity.

Yeah, I don't understand this line of reasoning either. Making consoles an upgrade bonanza would render the concept of consoles useless as a gaming device that offers what it does today. It could become as "terrible" as PC gaming then.

Making upgrades of the same machine is a horrible idea; early adopters will feel short-shafted and there are bound to be technical issues as well, not to mention the fact that developers will probably hate it, having to bifurcate your software development to make room for customization for two or more chipsets on all AAA titles, or opting out of a significant portion of the userbase are both terrible choices.

Not going to happen.